Help free victims of the BATF

Ceol Mhor

New member
Guys,

We know that there have been many people railroaded by the ATF for having guns or kits that they determined to be "readily convertible" to something illegal. People like Bob Stewart of Maadi-Griffin and John Glover for example. Well, I'm working on a project that could overturn literally thousands of such unjust convictions, and I need help from you folks.

You've probably head of their various ludicrious justifications, like Shoelaces being machineguns, or 8 hours of machine shop time being "readily convertible". The question is, does the BATFE have any documented procedure for determining what makes something "readily convertible" into a gun or machinegun? Every other federal agency that does testing has clearly defined procedures, which are obviously necessary to make objective conclusions. Ask the FDA for drug-testing procedures, for example, and they'll give them to you.

What we suspect, however, is that the BATFE has no such manual - they use whatever procedures strike an agent's fancy at the moment, and make their conclusions subjectively. If this is the case, then their conclusions about the convertibility of guns in thousands of cases will become tainted evidence, allowing thousands of retrials and ultimately freeing thousands of people fraudulently convicted.

How do we prove it? We need Congressmen to request a copy of the ATF procedures manual from the Congressional Research Service. The CRS of course does not have such a thing on file, and so they will request one from the ATF. When the ATF can't produce it, we have grounds to challenge ATF trial testimony. While this may sound complicated, we're already halfway there! One Congressman has already requested the manual directly from the ATF, and they are desperately trying to get him to formally remove his request...and they might succeed, if we can't bring any more pressure on them. Even just a few Congressmen joining in the request would make it neigh impossible for the ATF to squirm out of the hot seat.

Best of all, this doesn't require Congressmen to do anything so public as introduce legislation, make speeches, or even vote on anything. All they need to do is request the ATF procedures manual - a purely internal matter that won't bring them heat from the media or anti-gun constituents.

Please help out by contacting your Senators and Representatives (contact info: Senators, Reps) and asking them to request the BATF firearm examination procedures manual from the CRS. This is a chance to make a real difference, by helping real people who have been illegally imprisoned. Please ask your Congressmen to do this...and please let me know what the ATF or CRS tells them.

Thank you!
 
Good idea, however in hte frst instance,the problem regarding the antics of BATFE lies in/with/about THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES, which created the idiot legislation in the first place.

I wil copy and paste your paste to my congress critter and senators later today. It will not amount to my saying anything new to them, however one can never tell when that one additional straw might tip the balance.
 
Thanks, Alan. I agree that this will not remedy the root problem, but it will free many unjustly convicted citizens, and that is undoubtedly worth working for.

I hope other people will help out like you have.

FWIW, if anyone is unsure of what to say to a Congression rep about this, feel free to use this basic form letter:

Hello,

I am trying to obtain a copy of the BATFE's Firearms Testing Procedures
manual. Would you please contact the Congressional Research Service and
request a copy for me? If you are able to get a copy, please email to <email
adress> (if in digital format) or snail-mail to <physical address>. If you
are not able to get a copy, could you please let me know? I would appreciate
any update on your progress.

Thank you in advance,

<name>

Thank you!
 
Just wanted to give you guys another hearty thank-you. Please keep it up - I'm told that your letters, faxes, and emails are being noticed, and making a difference! Our first Congressman has decided to press his request, and we may be able to get the GAO (Government Accounting Office) involved as well.

If you haven't had the chance to help out by sending this request to your representatives, please do so. Every bit helps!
 
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