Help force the Whitehouse to take a position on an AWB

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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/do-not-reinstate-federal-assault-weapons-ban-1994/sC09SX1l

Unlike most online petitions that are completely useless, this one has potential to force the Obama administration to release a statement on an AWB. If it hits 25000 signatures, they say they will release a statement on the issue.

The text is:

Do NOT Reinstate the Federal "Assault Weapons Ban" of 1994

Veto any attempt to reinstate the Federal "Assault Weapons Ban." The crime rate involving such firearms has not risen since the original ban expired in 2004. Reinstating the ban would harm the individual right to keep and bear arms as outlined in the United States Constitution and only affect law-abiding citizens who purchase such firearms legally for peaceful purposes such as sport, hunting, and home defense.

Banning such firearms on the ground that "nobody needs an Assault Weapon" is unjust. The right to own these firearms is outlined in the Bill of Rights... Not the Bill of Needs.
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It is currently at 5433 signatures. Of note, I didn't write this and I'm sure it could have been written more cleanly. Whitehouse.gov does require you to give your Name, Zip and email address to sign a petition.
 
Those White House website petitions are the equivalent of liking something on Facebook. If it gets 25,000 signatures, the White House will issue some statement about being committed to reasonable restrictions, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah.
 
If it gets 25,000 signatures, the White House will issue some statement about being committed to reasonable restrictions, etc, etc, blah, blah
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Anyone really think a mere 25k signatures on this will change the president's opinion on the matter or dramatically change his policies? Dream on....
 
Even if we could, why on earth would we want to force the hand of the executive branch to take an action that is the equivalent of one of our worst nightmares???
 
He will just state he is not re-enacting the AWB, but is introducing legislation which will have a "real effect" on the issue. Not just some bandaid. Look out folks.
 
In the debates, Obama said he was in favor of the AWB. True, he's not likely to push it and there is little chance of getting one enacted.

So what use is the petition?

Clinton, Bushes, Dole, Romney, Gore and Obama have favored the AWB. McCain was better.

Thus, science demonstrates that running for president likely leads to support for the AWB. :D
 
Ummmm....

So lets see. Nothing so far under Obama has happened (exception of a dew comments) as far as gun control yet, but there should be support to force the issue?

Perhaps its better to let the sleeping giant continue sleeping.
 
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Those White House website petitions are the equivalent of liking something on Facebook.
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They're probably even less effective. I've yet to hear of any sort of legislation come about as a result of one of these. I guarantee that if people were actually required to make so much effort as to write something on a piece of paper, put it in an envelope, and stick it in the mailbox, this petition (and all the others on that site) would have a scant fraction of the signatures it does now.

And what good is it, anyway? We know his stance. He can't force one through without the House. It's just a self-aggrandizing episode of preaching to the choir.
 
[Whitehouse.gov petitions are] probably even less effective. I've yet to hear of any sort of legislation come about as a result of one of these.
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+1. Moreover, some recent petitions border on parody of the entire concept.

Given the recent trend towards movie theater shooting rampages, perhaps it would be more productive to petition the WH to enact a "Movie Theater Violence Prevention Act" consisting of a prohibition on future movie adaptations of comic books and Stephanie Meyer novels. I, for one, would give such a measure my full support. ;)
 
Clinton, Bushes, Dole, Romney, Gore and Obama have favored the AWB. McCain was better.
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Reagan shilled for the AWB after leaving office. McCain wanted to close the mythical "gunshow loophole".
 
Interesting you mention comics - there was significant legislative investigation of comics way back when. Horror comics were violent. Batman and WW promote same sex shennigans.

The classic book was Seduction of the Innocent by Wertham. Because of pressure the comics industry adopted a voluntary censorship code for many years.

Similar accommodations to legislative threats were not unknown during the height of the initial AWB panic.
 
Glenn E. Meyer said:
...Because of pressure the comics industry adopted a voluntary censorship code for many years....
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You bring up a valid point Glenn... Do we continue to police ourselves and continue reporting the very few of us who may cause a problem, and supporting those dealers for following the law? Or do we kick the 800lbs gorilla in the room?

My point of view, we need to keep trying to police ourselves as a whole, and work toward being stewards of firearm ownership. Bring others in to our group instead of creating a standoff which no one will win.
 
I believe we ALL know what we are in for over the next four years. Hopefully we have enough allies in congress to give us the help we will need.
 
I believe we ALL know what we are in for over the next four years.
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No, we don't. We've laid the groundwork to effectively counter many possible prohibitions, but we'll still be taking things as they come.
 
When are folks going to understand it is not the White House or the President who sets the laws of the land? It is the Congress.

Your concerns should not be addressed to or even related to the President. He is of the Executive Branch and not of the Legislative Branch. Yes, the position of President has influence and veto power. The influence is almost non-existent in today's environment, and we all should know (wishful thinking on my part) of the limitation of veto authority over the Legislative Branch.

The American people are so ignorant and mis-informed to their own form of government. It is disgusting to read threads of this nature with so much mis-information. :mad:
 
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