Heaven Help the Gun Nuts

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Heaven Help the Gun Nuts

By Richard Cohen

Thursday, March 23, 2000; Page A29

According to my crack computer, I have used the expression "gun nuts" only twice in my
career--and never in reference to the National Rifle Association. One reference was to right-wing
militias and the other to some Pat Buchanan supporters. Now, though, I'm about to change all that.
I have just read a speech by Charlton Heston, the NRA's president. The man is nuts.

My computer also tells me others have written about this speech, but for some reason I knew
nothing about it. Maybe you don't, either. It was delivered to a right-wing group, the Free Congress
Foundation, in December 1997.


The speech is the clearest rebuttal yet to the belief that the NRA speaks for most gun owners.
Instead, it offers proof that the organization has fallen into the hands of extremists who see the
controversy over gun legislation not as some gentlemanly dispute over the Second Amendment but
as a no-holds-barred cultural war. In Heston's formulation, the aggressors are gun-control
advocates while his side is defending nothing less than the American way. He put it this way:

"Heaven help the God-fearing, law-abiding, Caucasian, middle-class, Protestant or--even
worse--admitted heterosexual, gun-owning or--even worse--NRA-card-carrying, average working
stiff." If that sentence were a weapon, it would be an anti-personnel bomb.

Recently, the statements of the NRA's Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre have created a
fuss. He said Bill Clinton "has blood on his hands" for allegedly failing to enforce gun control laws
already on the books. The president was lax, LaPierre later explained, because he needs "a certain
level of killing to further" his anti-handgun agenda. Until I read Heston's speech, I thought that
was a shocking statement.

It is Heston, though, who offers a CAT scan into the mind of the gun zealot. He said he has seen
something like the anti-gun movement before. "I remember when European Jews feared to admit
their faith," he said. "The Nazis forced them to wear yellow stars. . . . So, what color star will they
pin on gun owners' chests? How will the self-styled elite tag us? There may not be a Gestapo officer
on every street corner, but the influence on our culture is just as pervasive."

Ah, but it is not just gun owners who are being pushed around by Gestapo officers--such as Sarah
Brady perhaps. It is whites in general. After all, Heston noted, "The Constitution was handed down .
. . by a bunch of wise old dead white guys. . . . Now, some flinch when I say that. Why? It's true . .
. they were white guys."

Heston goes on to wonder, "Why is 'Hispanic pride' or 'black pride' a good thing, while 'white pride'
conjures shaved heads and white hoods?" The answer, of course, is that people who proclaim "white
pride" often have shaved heads or wear white hoods. He can look it up.

The speech is a doozy, tinged with racism, homophobia and, if you will, paranoia. Still, Heston's
declaration of cultural war is worth examining. Surely there is a gun culture and just as surely there
are people for whom guns are alien. Country folk care more about guns than city folk, who, if
anything, tend to fear them. I am in the latter group, but I was moved when I read a recent
account in the Los Angeles Times of a farmer teaching his daughter to shoot. I have no desire to
change that.

Handguns, though, are a different matter. They are not hunting weapons--unless human beings
are the prey. They are too easily bought, too easily fired (by children, for instance) and too
dangerous to have around. I would license them so strictly they would effectively be banned. That's
not a political solution, however. That's just my dream.

Heston's speech is repellent. But at the time he gave it, he was merely the NRA's first vice
president. Since then, he's moved up--a clear sign not many NRA members took offense. They are
not alone. In Congress, the NRA is still the most formidable lobby, adored by much of the GOP and
not a few Democrats. You get the feeling that if some crackpot militia had oodles of soft money, it,
too, would be welcome in Congress.

In his speech, Heston--aging and no longer a movie star--nevertheless gives a fine performance
as a victim. He portrayed himself as merely some guy standing up for guns. "Why does the media
assault me with such a slashing, sinister brand of derision and hate?" he asked.

Because, Chuck, you're nuts.

© Copyright 2000 The Washington Post Company
 
Richard Cohen also has his head up his rectum! :(

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"Lead, follow or get the HELL out of the way."
 
Well, another one comes out of the closet, although I suspect, as a Post writer, he was never that far in. Just a cutsey way to bring in the "gun nut" theme.

Speaking from the Outer Limits, this idiot says: "The speech is the clearest rebuttal yet to the belief that the NRA speaks for most gun owners."
There's that "drive a wedge" between 'em ploy.

"Instead, it offers proof that the organization has fallen into the hands of extremists who see the controversy over gun legislation not as some gentlemanly dispute over the Second Amendment but as a no-holds-barred cultural war."
HELLO? That's EXACTLY what it is!

We are often accused of preaching to the choir -- does anybody who reads the Post NOT believe this crap?

In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny ....

I rebutted his article almost line by line and emailed it to the editors of the Post. Wonder if they'll print it. ;)

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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.

[This message has been edited by Oatka (edited March 23, 2000).]
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>"Heaven help the God-fearing, law-abiding, Caucasian, middle-class, Protestant or--even
worse--admitted heterosexual, gun-owning or--even worse--NRA-card-carrying, average working
stiff." If that sentence were a weapon, it would be an anti-personnel bomb.[/quote]

How about: heaven help the sucker PC liberal that tries to screw with this "all of the above" ?

You know pretty soon I feel like I'm going to have to be hooked up to a jug of valium via IV just to keep from strangling the next person that calls me a gun-nut, homophobe, intolerant, bigot, nazi or any of that other sh*t they call you when you don't agree with them.


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He forgot to mention that the rest of the speech is full of reasons to believe that there IS an assault on the values of that group. I don't fit into it perfectly but who fits into anything perfectly? The women on Ms. Magazine boards can't even agree on what a feminist believes in.
So what?
 
My letter to Cohen:

23 March 2000
Richard Cohen
Washington Post

I don't believe the NRA's (or the GOA's) hard-line stance always represents the majority of its membership, including me. I think trigger locks are a good thing, as are background checks (instant...we HAVE the technology) on all firearms transactions. I don’t understand the resistance to them, or other similar proposals. Still, I am a member because they are fighting for our constitutional rights, an unclear concept to you, apparently. I’ll bet on the 800lb gorilla.

I USED to be more willing to compromise on some gun issues, until anti-gun forces started to demonize us, trying to turn us into social lepers. Now, I say “up yours” to them. I get up every day, go to work, pay my taxes, raise my child actively and responsibly (meaning I don’t leave her in a crack house with a relative who sells stolen guns and dope, while my spouse is in jail, and wonder why something bad happened), support honest law enforcement, vote, and obey the law...even the terrible ones foisted on us.

Gun activities are my sport, and have been for 30 years. I hunt, target shoot, and compete in handgun shooting. I am responsible, am planning to become a reserve police officer, and keep my guns locked in a 400 pound gunsafe when not in use. And I won’t give them up without a fight. Tell me why I should? Because of the transgressions and irresponsibility of others, many of whom are criminals? I don’t think so. Since when do we apply “lowest common denominator” laws in this country? If that were true, you couldn’t drive a car, because 25,000 annual deaths by cars are caused by people behaving illegally. I also reserve the right— God given— to protect myself, my family, and others if necessary, for harm. You may feel free to dial 911, and get put on hold, instead. It’s a free country.

The following is a passage from your 3/23 column, with my comments in BOLD.

"Handguns, though, are a different matter. They are not hunting weapons (REALLY? TELL ELMER KEITH AND MANY, MANY THOUSANDS OF OTHERS WHO HUNT, TARGET SHOOT, AND COMPETE WITH HANDGUNS...I AM ONE)--unless human beings are the prey (FORGET ABOUT THE 2 MILLION PEOPLE WHO DEFEND THEMSELVES YEARLY. WHO GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THEM, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE CRIMINALS). They are too easily bought (TELL ME, IF YOU WANTED TO GO OUT RIGHT NOW AND BUY A GUN ILLEGALLY, WOULD YOU KNOW HOW OR WHERE, OR WOULD YOU? I DIDN'T THINK SO, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A CRIMINAL), too easily fired (by children, for instance) (SURE--30LB TRIGGER PULLS WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE ACCURACY. NOT) and too dangerous to have around (JUST LIKE SWIMMING POOLS, CARS, AND HOUSEHOLD CHEMICALS/DRUGS, ALL OF WHICH KILL MORE CHILDREN? ONLY IF YOU ARE STUPID, IRRESPONSIBLE, OR YOU ARE A BAD GUY COMING INTO MY HOUSE ARE THEY DANGEROUS...THEN YOU'LL KNOW WHAT DANGER IS). I would license them so strictly they would effectively be banned (THAT'S DEMOCRACY IN ACTION ISN'T IT? CAN'T BAN THEM, SO YOU LICENSE AND TAX THE "EVIL" INTO OBLIVION). That's not a political solution, however. That's just my dream (A CRACKPIPE DREAM, I’M AFRAID)...In his speech, Heston--aging and no longer a movie star--nevertheless gives a fine performance as a victim. (THAT’S IRONIC. YOUR CASTIGATE HIM AS BEING A VICTIM, AND YET YOU AND YOUR GUN-BANNING ALLIES ALSO WANT US TO BELIEVE THAT AN INANIMATE OBJECT—THE GUN— IS THE DEMON, AND THOSE WHO USE THEM CRIMINALLY OR IRRESPONSIBLY AREN’T TO BLAME, THEY’RE THE VICTIMS OF THIS OBJECT. BLAME THE THING, AND NOT THE mis-USER. BRILLIANT LOGIC)”

By the way, read Heston's speech to Harvard Law students several years ago... right on the money. The man is crazy like a fox... he just doesn’t say what you want to hear. Re your statement: “Heston goes on to wonder, “Why is 'Hispanic pride' or 'black pride' a good thing, while 'white pride' conjures shaved heads and white hoods?” The answer, of course, is that people who proclaim "white pride" often have shaved heads or wear white hoods. He can look it up.

How clever of you to distort what he obviously meant, into what you want to imply that he really meant. I have never heard Heston or any other mainstream national pro-gun person advocate or express rascist, white supremist idealogy. For you to imply otherwise is incendiary and irresponsible. Shame on you.

I’m sure the concept that media bias (see the above paragraph) on the gun issue is an invention of the pro-gun movement. Check out this website for some data that contradicts the theory.
www.mediaresearch.org/specialreports/news/sr20000105b.html

The media is shamlessly biased against guns. By the way, you mentioned an LA Times story about a farmer teaching his daughter to hunt. Actually, he is a high-ranking official with the Kansas Dept of Fish and Wildlife, as I recall. I read the story, was shocked to read such a fair piece in the Times, and called the Times’ reporter, Stephanie Simon. That followed with a multiple e-mail exchange, in which she said that she, a city girl, had learned a lot about the gun/hunting culture since becoming a midwest correspondent. She admitted that she now feels that the media is very unfairly biased on many aspects of the gun debate... a complete turnaround for her, and she thinks it is because many in the national media are products of an urban/suburban upbringing, with little or no firsthand experience on the subject.Your line “Country folk care more about guns than city folk, who, if anything, tend to fear them. I am in the latter group” is an oversimplification, but reinforces her observation. Ignorance (of anything) breeds fear and hysteria. Feel free to contact her, for an enlightening viewpoint.

I’m sure this is wasted, thought, ink, paper, and postage. Some of us won’t capitulate without a fight. I am one.


Sincerely,

PD, aka Covert


It's idiots like this who give idiots a bad name.

member: NRA, GOA, SAF, CCRKBA, CRPA, IDPA, GSSF
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[This message has been edited by Covert Mission (edited March 23, 2000).]
 
Chuckie's not a gun-nut, he's just a nut. I'd rather have a NRA president who didn't care whether the membership was "God-fearing, law-abiding, Caucasian, middle-class, Protestant or--even worse--admitted heterosexual." I guess I should upgrade my membership to a voting membership....

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Protect your Right to Keep and Bear Arms!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gorthaur:
I'd rather have a NRA president who didn't care whether the membership was "God-fearing, law-abiding, Caucasian, middle-classI guess I should upgrade my membership to a voting membership....
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I don't think he meant it like that, I think the point was that if you fit into any of the above catagories then you are the subject of redicule and if you fit into most of them then you're pratically a demon in the general publics eyes. It was a general observation that the "tolerant" attitude only applies if you are in a hero/victim group.
 
Covert Mission, On trigger locks... This subject sure seems vague to me also.

I don't care if the gun comes with a lock (despite the inflated cost of its' presence in the box of a new weapon). I do care if this meaningless device is mandated by FEDERAL law to be attatched to the chosen tool of personal defense in my home or worse on my hip!

This incremental approach has occurred in this country already.

Gun safety from the political left is a trojan horse. It will kill many of us if we let it in willingly.
 
I simplified it to "trigger locks" to simplify my letter. I actually don't even mind the type of built-in lock like on the new Steyr M series pistols, which I might buy. Easy to use when appropriate, hard to activate accidentally. Just don't tell me i HAVE to have it, like you said, G.

I have no illusions that this jerk will even absorb 1% of what I said. Just can't give up, though. Maybe he'll even call the LA Times writer, and get enlightened by a peer. Gotta give it a shot.
 
Charlton Heston's Keynote Address at the Free Congress Foundation's 20th Anniversary Gala

December 20, 1997

What an honor it is to address the Free Congress Foundation. At a glance
"Free" reads as a verb rather than an adjective. "Free Congress." Not a bad
directive for Mr. Clinton. Anyway...


I like it when the party of Lincoln honors our free heritage. This nation
has been blessed by the minds and mettle of many good people, and indeed Abe
was among the best. A man of great moral character, a trait often lacking
among our leaders. This is disturbing, but not without remedy. One good
election can correct such ills.

Above all, I hope those of us gathered here tonight have more in common with
Mr. Lincoln than just party affiliation. Better that we grasp a common
vision than simply wear the cloak. Even our President pretends to be a
conservative when it suits him. We must be more than that.

I know... it's not easy. Imagine being point man for the National Rifle
Association, preserving the right to keep and bear arms. I ran for office, I
was elected, and now I serve... as a moving target for pundits who've called
me everything from "ridiculous" and "duped" to a "brain-injured, senile and
crazy old man."

Maybe that comes with the territory. But as I have stood in the crosshairs
of those who aim at Second Amendment freedom, I have realized that guns are
not the only issue, and I am not the only target. It is much, much bigger
than that - which is what I want to talk to you about today.

I have come to realize that a cultural war is raging across our
land...storming our values, assaulting our freedoms, killing our
self-confidence in who we are and what we believe.

How many of you own a gun? A show of hands maybe? How many own two or more
guns?


Thank you. I wonder - how many of you own guns but chose not to raise your
hand? How many of you considered revealing your conviction about a
constitutional right, but then thought better of it?

Then you are a victim of the cultural war. You are a casualty of the
cultural warfare being waged against traditional American freedom of beliefs
and ideas. Now maybe you don't care one way or the other about owning a gun.
But I could've asked for a show of hands of Pentecostal Christians, or
pro-lifers, or right-to-workers, or Promise Keepers, or school voucher-ers,
and the result would be the same. What if the same question were asked at
your PTA meeting? Would you raise your hand if Dan Rather were in the back
of the room with a film crew?

See? You have been assaulted and robbed of the courage of your convictions.
Your pride in who you are and what you believe, has been ridiculed,
ransacked and plundered. It may be a war without bullets or bloodshed, but
with just as much liberty lost. You and your country are less free.

And you are not inconsequential people! You in this room, whom many would
say are among the most powerful people on earth, you are shamed into
silence! Because you choose to own guns - affirmed by no less than the Bill
of Rights. But you embrace a view at odds with the cultural warlords. If
that is the outcome of cultural war, and you are victims, I can only ask the
gravely obvious question: What'll become of the right itself? Or other
rights not deemed acceptable by the thought police? What other truth in your
heart will you disavow with your hand?

I remember when European Jews feared to admit their faith. The Nazis forced
them to wear yellow stars as identity badges. It worked. So - what color
star will the pin on gun owners' chests? How will the self-styled elite tag
us? There may not be a Gestapo officer on every street corner, but the
influence on our culture is just as pervasive.

Now, I am not really here to talk about the Second Amendment of the NRA, but
the gun issue clearly brings into focus the warfare that's going on.

Rank-and-file Americans wake up every morning, increasingly bewildered and
confused at why their views make them lesser citizens. After enough
breakfast-table TV hyping tattooed sex-slaves on the next Rikki Lake, enough
gun-glutted movies and tabloid shows, enough revisionist history books and
prime-time ridicule of religion, enough of the TV anchor who cocks her head,
clucks her tongue and sighs about guns causing crime and finally the message
gets through: Heaven help the God-fearing, law-abiding, Caucasian, middle
class, Protestant, or-even worse- admitted heterosexual, gun-owning or-even
worse-NRA-card-carrying, average working stiff, or-even worse-male working
stiff, because not only don't you count, you're a downright obstacle to
social progress. Your tax dollars may be just as delightfully green as you
hand them over, but your voice deserves a lower decibel level, your opinion
is less enlightened, your media access is insignificant. And frankly,
mister, you need to wake up, wise up and learn a little something about your
new America... and until you do, would you mind shutting up?

That's why you didn't raise your hand. That's how cultural war works. And
you are losing.

That's what happens when a generation of media, educators, entertainers and
politicians, led by a willing president, decide the America they were born
into isn't good enough any more. So they contrive to change it through the
cultural warfare of class distinction. Ask the Romans if powerful nations
have ever fallen as a result of cultural division. There are ruins around
the world that were once the smug centers of small-minded, arrogant elitism.
It appears that rather than evaporate in the flash of a split atom, we may
succumb to a divided culture.

Although my years are long, I was not on hand to help pen the Bill of
Rights. And popular assumptions aside, the same goes for the Ten
Commandments. Yet as an American and as a man who believes in God's almighty
presence, I treasure both.

The Constitution was handed down to guide us by a bunch of wise old dead
white guys who invented our country. Now some flinch when I say that. Why?
It's true... they were white guys. So were most of the guys that died in
Lincoln's name opposing slavery in the 1860s. So why should I be ashamed of
white guys? Why is "Hispanic pride" or "black pride" a good thing, while
"white pride" conjures shaved heads and white hoods? Why was the Million Man
March on Washington celebrated as progress, while the Promise Keepers March
on Washington was greeted with suspicion and ridicule? I'll tell you why:
Cultural warfare.

Now, Chuck Heston can get away with saying I'm proud of those wise old dead
white guys because Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan know I fought in their
cultural war. I was one of the first white soldiers in the civil rights
movement, long before it was fashionable. In 1963 I marched on Washington
with Dr. Martin Luther King to uphold the Bill of Rights. As vice-president
of the NRA I am doing the same thing.

But you don't see many other Hollywood luminaries speaking out on this, do
you? It's not because there aren't any. It's because they can't afford the
heat. They dare not speak up for fear of CNN or the IRS or SAG or ATF or NBC
or even W-J-C. It saps the strength of our country when the personal price
is simply too high to stand up for what you believe in. Today, speaking with
the courage of your conviction can be so costly, the price of principle can
be so high, that legislators won't lead and citizens can't follow, and so
there is no army to fight back. That's cultural warfare.

For instance: It's plain that our Constitution guarantees law-abiding
citizens the right to own a firearm. But if I stand up and say so, why is
the media assault on me such a slashing, sinister brand of derision filled
with hate?

Because Bill Clinton's cultural warriors want a penitent cleansing of
firearms, as if millions of lawful gun owners should genuflect in shame and
seek absolution by surrendering their guns. That's what is now literally
underway in England and Australia. Lines of submissive citizens, threatened
with imprisonment, are bitterly surrendering family heirlooms, guns that won
their freedom, to the blast furnace. If that fact does not unsettle you,
then you are already anesthetized, a ready victim of the cultural war.

You know that I stand first in line in defense for free speech. But those
who speak against the perverted and profane should be given as much due as
those who profit by it. You also know I welcome cultural diversity. But
those who choose to live on the fringe should not tear apart the seams that
secure the fabric of our society.

I've earned a fine and rewarding living in the motion picture industry, yet
increasingly I find myself embarrassed by the dearth of conscience that
drives the world's most influential art form. And I am an example of what a
lonely undertaking it can be.

Nobody opposed the obscene rapper Ice-T until I stood at Time-Warner's
stockholders meeting and was ridiculed by its president for wanting to take
the floor to read Ice-T's lyrics. Since I held several hundred shares of
stock he had no choice. Though the media were barred, I read those lyrics to
a stunned audience of average American people... shocked at lyrics that
advocating killing cops, sexually abusing women, and raping the nieces of
our Vice-President. The good guys won that time: Time-Warner fired Ice-T.

The gay and lesbian movement is another good example. Many homosexuals are
hugely talented artists and executives... also dear friends. I don't despise
their lifestyle, though I don't share it. As long as gay and lesbian
Americans are as productive, law-abiding and private as the rest of us, I
think America owes them absolute tolerance. It's the right thing to do.

On the other hand, I find my blood pressure rising when Clinton's cultural
shock troops participate in gay-rights fundraisers but boycott gun-rights
fundraisers... and then claim it's time to place homosexual men in tents
with Boy Scouts, and suggest that sperm donor babies born into lesbian
relationships are somehow better served and more loved.

Such demands have nothing to do with equality. They're about the currency of
cultural war - money and votes - and the Clinton camp will let anyone in the
tent if there's a donkey on the hat, a check in the mail or some yen in the
fortune cookie.

Mainstream America is counting on you to draw your sword and fight for them.
These people have precious little time and resources to battle misguided
Cinderella attitudes, the fringe propaganda of the homosexual coalition, the
feminists who preach that it is a divine duty for women to hate men, blacks
who raise a militant fist with one hand while they seek preference with the
other, and all the New-Age apologists for juvenile crime, who see roving
gangs as a means of youthful expression, sex as a means of adolescent
merchandizing, violence as a form of entertainment for impressionable minds,
and gun bans as a means to Lord-knows-what. We have reached that point in
time when our national social policy originates on Oprah. I say it's time to
pull the plug.

Americans should not have to go to war every morning for their values. They
already go to war for their families. They fight to hold down a job, raise
responsible kids, make their payments, keep gas in the car, put food on the
table and clothes on their backs, and still save a little to live their
final days in dignity. They prefer the America they built - where you could
pray without feeling naïve, love without being kinky, sing without
profanity, be white without feeling guilty, own a gun without shame, and
raise your hand without apology. They are the critical masses who find
themselves under siege and long for you to get some guts, stand on principle
and lead them to victory in this cultural war.

Now if this all sounds a little Mosaic, the punchline of my sermon is as
elementary as the Golden Rule: In a cultural war, triumph belongs to those
who arm themselves with pride in who they are and then do the right thing.
Not the most expedient thing, not what'll sell, not the politically correct
thing, but the right thing.

And you know what? Everybody already knows what the right thing is. You and
I and President Clinton, even Ice-T, we all know. It's easy. You say wait a
minute, you take a long look in the mirror, then into the eyes of your kids
or grandkids, and you'll know what's right.

Don't run for cover when the cultural cannons roar. Remember who you are and
what you believe, and then raise you hand, stand up, and speak out. Don't be
shamed or startled into lockstep conformity by seemingly powerful people.
The maintenance of a free nation is a long, slow, steady process. And it's
in your hands.

Yes, we can have rules and still have rebels - that's democracy. But as
leaders you must do as Lincoln would do, confronted with the stench of
cultural war: Do what's right. As Mr. Lincoln said, "With firmness in the
right, as God gives us to see the right, let us finish the work we are in...
and then we shall save our country."

Defeat the criminals and their apologists, oust the biased and bigoted,
endure the undisciplined and unprincipled, but disavow the self-appointed
social engineers whose relentless arrogance fuels this vicious war against
so much we hold so dear. Do not yield, do not divide, do not call truce. Be
fair, but fight back.

It's the same blueprint our founding fathers left to guide us. Our enemies
see it as the senile prattle of an archaic society. I still honor it as the
United States Constitution, and that timeless document we call the Bill of
Rights.

Freedom is our fortune and honor is our saving grace.
Thank you.

---Charlton Heston
 
Richard Cohen is a PC nut who has nothing better to do than try to divide the NRA. He can hide behind his PC all day while the rest of us must face the tasks of the real world. Maybe his attitude would change if a BG broke into his house and stole his PC instead of shooting him.
 
IMO, the *real* gun nuts are people like Richard Cohen, who go through life obsessing on guns; fearing and mistrusting gunowners (is this paranoia, or what?); whining, howling, or ranting about what a threat guns are; hallucinating about evil spirits inherent in firearms; and plain stuck in irrational denial about the facts of gun use. IOW, the Richard Cohens of America are a sad, misfortunate lot who deserve our pity and need help!

Hmmm, maybe if we had national universal health care :rolleyes: these poor, pitiful folks could get the psychiatric treatment they needed and would leave the rest of in peace.


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