9MMand223only
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OK fellas, as you know, I test things. So I bought a canister of HBN. I never used it before, but comfortably used Moly and other coatings.
So get this. I do up the HBN perfect on a bunch of 77 gr SMK in 5.56. BB's, tumbler, they look perfect. I set necks at .223, so only .001 of neck tension, which translates to about 20 PSI to seat them, which is very low.
I seat the non HBN bullets, they seat around 20 PSI pressure on arbor. I then take a HBN bullet, that I measured still has .224 diameter, same as non coated, I try and seat it..
50....80...100...120...it takes about 200 PSI of pressure to seat it, and the first one CRUSHED the neck it was so much pressure. I mean you literally had to put all your body weight, to get it to go in, and it just would not. then CRUSH.
So ok...I am thinking people will tell me all kinds of things...so I already know. SO I start doing this...with next many..
Nothing worked, although freshly SPRAYING the bullet, which I think eliminatd a lot of HBN, and then swabbing the neck with ONE SHOT, helped...that one was only about 140 PSI to seat,and it CRUSHED the ogive badly.
even the damn .224 diameter brass would not go in.
what in the damn heck is going on with this crap. Its almost like your trying to push in something down against compressed air. Like the air inside the case is stopping the bullet from going down, its super weird.
I read that different brands of brass work, and some don't. I have nearly every brand of brass. All brass I used was BRAND NEW.
I have tried 15 different methods to seat this crap, even wiping it off so hard core, you can't even barely see anyting under a magnifying glass. Still does it.
What in the hell is going on. I will try another 10 brands of brass, and if that doesn't work, I guess I can't do an HBN review for the site. This is literally insane. The bullet feels SUPER SLICK. the MOMENT you try and seat the bullet even 20k down, it locks up like you are hyrolocking your engine. It feels like their is massive air pressure pushing UP. I get this feeling because it sort of rebounds a little. I have many presses. Tried on 3.
This crap is the biggest hassle I ever seen. haha. Joke is on me for sure.
So get this. I do up the HBN perfect on a bunch of 77 gr SMK in 5.56. BB's, tumbler, they look perfect. I set necks at .223, so only .001 of neck tension, which translates to about 20 PSI to seat them, which is very low.
I seat the non HBN bullets, they seat around 20 PSI pressure on arbor. I then take a HBN bullet, that I measured still has .224 diameter, same as non coated, I try and seat it..
50....80...100...120...it takes about 200 PSI of pressure to seat it, and the first one CRUSHED the neck it was so much pressure. I mean you literally had to put all your body weight, to get it to go in, and it just would not. then CRUSH.
So ok...I am thinking people will tell me all kinds of things...so I already know. SO I start doing this...with next many..
- Wipe off HBN so it doesn't look that frosty, but you can barely see specs, and it feels slippery still.
- Wax the neck
- Hornady One shot the neck
- Hornady one shot the neck AND the HBN bullet
- Brass brush, heavily, then nylon brush and basically polish the neck
- resized neck to .224, almost ZERO neck tension
- tried another brand of brass
LASTLY put HBN with alchohol swabbed on neck. Did nothing.
Nothing worked, although freshly SPRAYING the bullet, which I think eliminatd a lot of HBN, and then swabbing the neck with ONE SHOT, helped...that one was only about 140 PSI to seat,and it CRUSHED the ogive badly.
even the damn .224 diameter brass would not go in.
what in the damn heck is going on with this crap. Its almost like your trying to push in something down against compressed air. Like the air inside the case is stopping the bullet from going down, its super weird.
I read that different brands of brass work, and some don't. I have nearly every brand of brass. All brass I used was BRAND NEW.
I have tried 15 different methods to seat this crap, even wiping it off so hard core, you can't even barely see anyting under a magnifying glass. Still does it.
What in the hell is going on. I will try another 10 brands of brass, and if that doesn't work, I guess I can't do an HBN review for the site. This is literally insane. The bullet feels SUPER SLICK. the MOMENT you try and seat the bullet even 20k down, it locks up like you are hyrolocking your engine. It feels like their is massive air pressure pushing UP. I get this feeling because it sort of rebounds a little. I have many presses. Tried on 3.
This crap is the biggest hassle I ever seen. haha. Joke is on me for sure.