I saw these in a lgs last week. Nice uncluttered reticle with illuminated target dot. Glass looked great in store but I’ve seen that before and not so good at the range. Turrets audible and feel good. 30 mm tube. Written on both MADE IN CHINA. I’ve read a lot of reviews and both scopes get decent reviews. For a 3-400 dollar scope and a lifetime warranty they looked ok. I’m putting a few barrels together for my TC Encore and kind of liked the Vantage 3-12-44 with no parallelex adjustment. Would like to know if anyone has any knowledge of this brand of optics. Tracking. Fisheye. Anything would help.