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Hawaii
- Thread starter Ted D
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This is completely pulling an idea out of my behind, but their isolation may have something to do with it. It would take longer to get help from the rest of the United States if they had an issue they couldn't handle, so they might be trying to make it more difficult for a large armed group of people to get there. It could also be the fact that their primary way of making money is tourism and a lot of the tourists are probably from countries that do not allow guns and could be scared off by locals toting guns.
Overkill777
New member
I was stationed in Hawaii and married a native Hawaiian so I have some observations.
The reason is complex and based on history and culture (big surprise).
There are many native Hawaiians who feel that the white man is the root of all evil they don't want to be part of the US. They want to go back to monarchy. I don't think there is much voter turn out. I also don't think they really think this through.
Historically I think plantations played a big part of their culture and certain races were basically treated like slaves and this has to do with many voters just blindly voting "D". Also I'm sure many are vested in just getting their government check.
Its just a really liberal, touchy, feely, hippy culture with some really complex and understandably difficult history which adds fuel to the fire. I don't think many value reason and logic the same way most conservative Americans do. Isolation has something to do with it, as does the intense diversity.
That said, my lovely wife accepts the gun culture, enjoys shooting, concealed carries, and votes republican. There are always exceptions.
The reason is complex and based on history and culture (big surprise).
There are many native Hawaiians who feel that the white man is the root of all evil they don't want to be part of the US. They want to go back to monarchy. I don't think there is much voter turn out. I also don't think they really think this through.
Historically I think plantations played a big part of their culture and certain races were basically treated like slaves and this has to do with many voters just blindly voting "D". Also I'm sure many are vested in just getting their government check.
Its just a really liberal, touchy, feely, hippy culture with some really complex and understandably difficult history which adds fuel to the fire. I don't think many value reason and logic the same way most conservative Americans do. Isolation has something to do with it, as does the intense diversity.
That said, my lovely wife accepts the gun culture, enjoys shooting, concealed carries, and votes republican. There are always exceptions.
History and culture, I agree. And don't forget geography.
Island chain. The wide open spaces of the frontier, whether you are talking the US west or earlier when the frontier was Kentucky, simply don't exist. Their frontier was the sea, where guns are not particularly useful.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that there are any large predatory land animals native to Hawaii. No mountain lions, bears or wolves to eat you, or your stock.
So, the usefulness of firearms was not a cultural thing, the way it was with "mainlanders".
I would think that when the politicians instituted restrictive gun control, the majority of the population literally could have cared less. Not something most had ever been exposed to, didn't grow up with, and weren't interested in, so they didn't fight it much, if any.
Possibly the native islanders considered it a white man's thing, and didn't care to be involved.
And you know, the only reason the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor was because that's where the US Navy was! etc.
Island chain. The wide open spaces of the frontier, whether you are talking the US west or earlier when the frontier was Kentucky, simply don't exist. Their frontier was the sea, where guns are not particularly useful.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that there are any large predatory land animals native to Hawaii. No mountain lions, bears or wolves to eat you, or your stock.
So, the usefulness of firearms was not a cultural thing, the way it was with "mainlanders".
I would think that when the politicians instituted restrictive gun control, the majority of the population literally could have cared less. Not something most had ever been exposed to, didn't grow up with, and weren't interested in, so they didn't fight it much, if any.
Possibly the native islanders considered it a white man's thing, and didn't care to be involved.
And you know, the only reason the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor was because that's where the US Navy was! etc.
carguychris
New member
Although I have never been to Hawaii and don't know much about their culture firsthand, it may be very relevant that an armed anti-government paramilitary (the Honolulu Rifles) played a pivotal role in the overthrow of the Hawaiian monarchy. I surmise that insurrectionist arguments in favor of the 2A don't play well among native islanders.Overkill777 said:The reason is complex and based on history and culture (big surprise)... There are many native Hawaiians who feel that the white man is the root of all evil they don't want to be part of the US. They want to go back to monarchy.