Has NYC broken off while I was asleep?

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Unsheathed insanity

Samurai swords. Broadswords. Highland claymores. Scimitars. Dueling swords. Reasonable facsimiles of King Arthur's Excalibur. Various other cutting-edge weapons. If you want one, or more, they are more than readily available. No background checks. No waiting period. All sales perfectly legal, even if the buyer recently got sprung from Bellevue and is refusing to take his meds.

Can't find a sword shop in your neighborhood? You can get the lethal blades on the Internet. Or through the mail (no pun intended). "Collectors" like them. So do military reenactors. And the wacky sort of guys who just like to dress up in armor once in a while. For whatever reason. (Armor's available, too.)

On Sunday, a samurai sword was the weapon of choice in a particularly gruesome murder in Queens. The alleged killer, Michael Desiderio, is 18. The victim, Ricardo Richardson, also 18, was a friend. Since the sword was unsheathed, carrying it, much less using it, was illegal. Buying it wasn't. Sleep well, New York.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ideas_opinions/story/202778p-174990c.html
 
Broken off? Nah! Still the same liberal hellhole that it always was. Socialist piggery in action.

They act like entitlements from the government (funded by thievery committed by said government) won't suck their souls from their bodies. Then, when faced with the obvious aftermath of socialism, they blame inanimate objects for their own abject moral failure.

As I said, still the same.
 
I'd say statist.

Remember their current Governor/Mayor, whatever he is, has an R next to his name.

Where I live, too, the official Likud position is "If we could, we would ban all guns" :eek:

The difference is in the colour of the shirt alone.

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However, on a lighter note, note their reference to "wackos" in armour.

We can now point SCA at this.
 
Remember their current Governor/Mayor, whatever he is, has an R next to his name.
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While we are remembering, let's try to remember that Mr. Bloomberg was/is a lifelong Demonrat until it occurred to him that the people of NYC are too stupid to tell the difference between a liberal and conservative. The only reason he put that (R) behind his name was to avoid having to compete for the Democrat primary.

Where I live, too, the official Likud position is "If we could, we would ban all guns"
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Thanks for the example to help me make my point. In Israel - as in places like NYC - the venue is so inherently rife with socialism that no one can tell the difference between socialists and conservatives, because there are no conservatives!
 
Likud = tax-reduction programs, welfare-to-work programs, privatisation of government assets (IMI). Wow. Sounds conservative to me.
 
Sounds conservative to me.
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I'm sure that it does sound conservative to a marxist.

But Likud's overall philosophy - e.g. gun-control - strikes me as liberal (in the modern American sense).

I know many people who consider themselves Republican who favor gun-control. To me they just don't understand the idea that freedom and self-determination are one and the same. Then again, most people don't understand that. It's called ignorance, and God must surely love ignorant people or he wouldn't have made so many of them.

The good news is that ignorance can sometimes be cured.
 
So, under your logic, someone who supports reducing welfare programs and taxes, privatising businesses and supporting religion is a liberal over the single point of gun control?

Strange. I call them anti-gun conservatives. :D
 
So, under your logic, someone who supports reducing welfare programs and taxes, privatising businesses and supporting religion is a liberal over the single point of gun control?
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Why not give paying attention a try? I said overall. I said nothing of "single point".
 
FYI

i.e. = in Latin id est = that is Meaning a singular specific example.

e.g. = in Latin exempli gratia = for, or, by way of, example Meaning just one of many possible examples.
 
What Licud policies do you know that are liberal? (Bearing in mind they have, as we witnessed, an overall conservative economic policy)
 
What Licud (sic) policies do you know that are liberal?
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I recall one recent interview in which a Likud party leader mentioned that the party was willing to give "painful concessions" in return for peace with the Palestinians.

I, on the other hand, would give the Palestinians nothing. It's long since past due for the Palestinians to give something. Starting with the head of the Egyptian maggot Arafat! Let the Palestinians as a whole conduct themselves in the fashion of civilized people - oh... for say 5 or 6 decades - and we can talk. Until then, as far as I'm concerned, "Cry havoc! and let slip the dogs of war!"

I could go on, but frankly I find the subject of the nanny-state of Israel to be a tedious bore. :barf:
 
Shows you don't live here.

There is no way we can control and subdue a people who decidedly doesn't want to be subdued for 60 years. Not possible.

Yes, the idea of a united Holy Land is great. In theory. It just doesn't work. :D
 
Shows you don't live here.
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Does the phrase, "pot calling the kettle black" ring a bell? All you do around here is talk about American politics, something you have no firsthand knowledge of, as if you were an expert. Somebody does the same thing in reverse and you get all huffy. Too funny.

Two people talking about countries foreign to them, each one not knowing what they are talking about. :D

Remember their current Governor/Mayor, whatever he is, has an R next to his name.
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Here is some American Civics 101 for you: when it comes to elected officials with executive power in the United States, Mayor=City and Governor=State.

But please, feel free to tell us all about how our politics work. ;)

And to answer the question: New York City has ALWAYS been nuts. :eek:
 
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I guess I miss the point. Swords are available for sale along with kitchen knives, hunting knives, baseball bats, chain saws and axes. Man has killed with all of the above.

Are you commenting on the fact that people kill other people or that the government hasn't seen fit to remove all sharp objects from our lives?
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Here is some American Civics 101 for you: when it comes to elected officials with executive power in the United States, Mayor=City and Governor=State
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I know that, CastleBravo. However, I still don't know whether that Republican guy - what's his name? - is Mayor of NYC or Governor of NY.

All you do around here is talk about American politics
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There is a difference, mind you. I do all I can to acquire infromation about US politics. When I quote a US politician, I try (not always succeed) to verify the source quote.

I try to avoid saying "I recall one recent interview in which a Republican party leader mentioned that the party was willing to give "painful concessions" in return for peace with the [insert country here].

I try (not always succeed) to avoid confusion such as in the case with the NY politico.

Oh, and as for the Palestinians, Fred, you would be probably flattered to know you share Shumer's position IIRC. Does that make you a liberal? :)

Rich, actually, I not pointing out either. The author of the article is. :)
 
Rich, actually, I not pointing out either. The author of the article is.
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Am I to understand that your point in posting the article is, ummm....pointless, or did you have some thoughts about the article that you wish to share? If the former, we can save the bandwidth and delete. If the latter, then kindly make your point so that we might discuss it.
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My point(s) were:

a)That the gun control movement, when out of guns to ban, will apply it's twisted logic to other weapons.

b)Than the statists, when out of "gun nuts" to make scapegoat of, will make scapegoats of SCA members and reconstructors.

c)That we can probably use a) and b) to our benefit.
 
CNN.com November 27, 2003 Posted: 12:58 PM EST (1758 GMT)

Sharon: Israel must make 'painful concessions'

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Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Thursday his country will have to make "painful concessions" and withdraw from Palestinian land to move the peace process forward.

He did not, however, concede to pressure to stop building the barrier around Israel which an international policy research group says extends at times into the Palestinian-controlled West Bank.

Speaking to Israeli news editors Thursday, Sharon said he was in favor of the road map to Middle East peace, a plan created by the European Union, Russia, the United States and the United Nations -- and presented to the Palestinian Authority in April.

"The best move for Israel is to make the Palestinians move forward on the road map," he said. "The road map is the only way that will bring forth a cease-fire and a resumption of negotiations in which the Palestinians will have an independent state."

The road map calls for both sides to take steps aimed at ending the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and establishing an independent Palestinian state by 2005. Progress on the plan was delayed this summer after renewed rounds of attacks in Israel and the Palestinian territories.

Sharon also repeated comments he made earlier this month in Moscow that Israel is ready to make concessions -- but not on the barrier.

"Israel will have to make painful concessions -- it is clear that we will not remain in all the places we are in now," he said. "If the Palestinians would not have started with terrorism we would not have built the security fence but the work on the fence will be accelerated -- it is essential to Israel's security."

The Palestinians call the barrier a land grab, noting construction around some Jewish settlements does not follow the so-called Green Line, the frontier between Israel and the West Bank before the 1967 war.

The new barrier will follow the old line, but at some points will veer into the West Bank, enclosing some 77-square kilometers of occupied land. At least 11 Palestinian villages will end up on the Israeli side of the barrier, according to globalsecurity.org, a nonpartisan international policy research group.

Israel has said the barrier -- which is a few kilometers inside the West Bank in most cases but follows the contours of the border with Israel -- is necessary to stop Palestinian terrorists from entering Israel.

In October, U.S. Assistant Secretary for Near East Affairs William Burns called on Israelis to stop settlement activity and the construction of the barrier, insisting it "undermines Israeli and Palestinian interests."

The Israeli government began building the barrier last year. In some spots, it is an electronic fence topped with razor wire and in other spots a massive concrete wall.

Israel has built 93 miles (150 km) of the barrier in the north. When finished the barrier will stretch 428 miles (690 km) at an estimated cost of $1.5 billion - a little more than $3.5 million per mile.

Briefing the U.N. Security Council earlier this month, Kieran Prendergast, under-secretary- general for political affairs, said construction of the barrier made peace more difficult to achieve, diminished trust, and made the realization of a two-state solution more difficult.



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