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Has anyone ever heard of Peter Stahl 1911's?
- Thread starter 45automan
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Peter Stahl used to make multicalibre slide/barrel system that was put on Springfield frame. The whole thing used to be called Omega. The were made from late 80's into early 90's. Relatively few were made. They used to be made in 38 super, 10mm and 45acp.
The distinguishing feature was open top ejection port with double extractors. The barel lockup system was linkless.
The guns were very nice but not very popular. I used to have one in 10mm.
Once in nice condition can be found for $650 or so.
The distinguishing feature was open top ejection port with double extractors. The barel lockup system was linkless.
The guns were very nice but not very popular. I used to have one in 10mm.
Once in nice condition can be found for $650 or so.
Peter Stahl was primarily barrels, I have one on my GP Comp Browning HP. I hear that he has gotten into high end 1911's. Good German work from what I understand. I don't know about Seagal using Stahl guns, his smith is Terry Tussey who does outstanding work. I saw a couple of Caspian damascus slide 1911's that Terry did and they are works of art.
hksigwalther
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Got the Springfield Omega 10mm. The entire slide assembly is Peters Stahl. In addition to oktagon's post, the early models had duel extractors, the left one having a little less grab than the right one. This is supposed to allow it to relesae sooner than the right one causing the case to fly off to the right as a normal 1911 would when the casing hit the ejector. This didn't always work 100% of the time and the shooter (which I can attest from my own experience) will get bonked in the forehead with an empty (or down the front of a loose shirt, ouch).
The reason for hte duel extractors is that they spring inward far enough to allow caliber swaps with just a barrel/spring/mag change as all of the chambers are externally identical in dimensions and fit in the same breachface.
Later models had one extractor that could be adjusted inward/outward by a hexbolt from the left side. The recoil spring plug also had modifications too to ease (or in some opinions, complicate) removal.
The lockup is similar to the current SIGs and HKs, i.e., modified Browning, which I think is considerably better than the link/pin setup.
The frame is a standard 1911.
I could have sworn that when Springfield stopped impotring the slide assemblies and completing the guns that McMillan picked it up for a while as the 'Wolverine' line.
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- Ron V.
The reason for hte duel extractors is that they spring inward far enough to allow caliber swaps with just a barrel/spring/mag change as all of the chambers are externally identical in dimensions and fit in the same breachface.
Later models had one extractor that could be adjusted inward/outward by a hexbolt from the left side. The recoil spring plug also had modifications too to ease (or in some opinions, complicate) removal.
The lockup is similar to the current SIGs and HKs, i.e., modified Browning, which I think is considerably better than the link/pin setup.
The frame is a standard 1911.
I could have sworn that when Springfield stopped impotring the slide assemblies and completing the guns that McMillan picked it up for a while as the 'Wolverine' line.
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- Ron V.
I know that Terry Tussey down in Orange County (south of Los Angeles) supposedly does the gun work for Steven Seagal.
Before that time, though, a retired LEO friend of mine liked Tussey's work and took his stock 1911's for Tussey to tune up...My friend was not happy...took it back three times because he wanted the guns for police competition shoots.
The last time, my friend was lucky...his gun blew up...took some small fragments in the face. Lucky he was wearing a good pair of eye protection...a chunk of the slide hit the glasses. Swore off using this gunsmith...that was some 10 years ago.
Good luck...he's probably improved a bit by now.
Before that time, though, a retired LEO friend of mine liked Tussey's work and took his stock 1911's for Tussey to tune up...My friend was not happy...took it back three times because he wanted the guns for police competition shoots.
The last time, my friend was lucky...his gun blew up...took some small fragments in the face. Lucky he was wearing a good pair of eye protection...a chunk of the slide hit the glasses. Swore off using this gunsmith...that was some 10 years ago.
Good luck...he's probably improved a bit by now.