Has a Glock KaBoom ever occurred with Factory Ammo?
- Thread starter Dogger
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Yes. See related threads here. 
Patrick Graham
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I've had a 1911 kaboom but no glock kaboom.
Dogger,
On July 20,1998, I experienced a case head separation involving a .40 S&W 155g Fed. H.S. while chronographing various standard pressure factory offerings out of my G-27. It was the 6th of 7 rounds of that particular load. The barrel was clear; the chamber was clean and the Glock was fully in battery. Interestingly, the incident bullet yielded a vel. of 956.7 fps compared to an avg. of 1090 fps for the preceding five rds...obviously most of the gases headed in the correct direction. The round had a muffled report, some quantity of gas was expelled through the grip frame and the action was difficult to clear due to brass deformation. The Glock suffered no apparent damage. The incident was documented and reported to Fed. and Glock in detail (incl. photos & cartridge case components). Both companies proved to be extremely responsive and helpful. Bottom line...brass defect x 1 and a generous chamber.
I have been extremely fortunate, as a shooter,competitor and reloader for 45 years this is the first malfunction of any kind experienced with any firearm or component. Do I still own and shoot Glocks? You bet! Do I worry about Kb's? Not at all! Do I pay attention to the details that all of us should "hawk"? Absolutely!
Enjoy your Glock, Dogger.
Bill
On July 20,1998, I experienced a case head separation involving a .40 S&W 155g Fed. H.S. while chronographing various standard pressure factory offerings out of my G-27. It was the 6th of 7 rounds of that particular load. The barrel was clear; the chamber was clean and the Glock was fully in battery. Interestingly, the incident bullet yielded a vel. of 956.7 fps compared to an avg. of 1090 fps for the preceding five rds...obviously most of the gases headed in the correct direction. The round had a muffled report, some quantity of gas was expelled through the grip frame and the action was difficult to clear due to brass deformation. The Glock suffered no apparent damage. The incident was documented and reported to Fed. and Glock in detail (incl. photos & cartridge case components). Both companies proved to be extremely responsive and helpful. Bottom line...brass defect x 1 and a generous chamber.
I have been extremely fortunate, as a shooter,competitor and reloader for 45 years this is the first malfunction of any kind experienced with any firearm or component. Do I still own and shoot Glocks? You bet! Do I worry about Kb's? Not at all! Do I pay attention to the details that all of us should "hawk"? Absolutely!
Enjoy your Glock, Dogger.
Bill
Yep. See www.greent.com in the calibers seciton.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dogger:
Just curious to know... I only shoot standard velocity factory ammo thru my Glock 30... Am curious to know what I am in store for... I see "Glock" and "Kaboom" associated a lot together...[/quote]
IMO, you are in very little danger of a Kaboom with your G30. I have a G21 and a G30, the chambers are as fully supported as any .45ACP, including my two 1911's. In addition, the .45ACP is a low pressure round, while the .40S&W is a much higher pressure round.
Just curious to know... I only shoot standard velocity factory ammo thru my Glock 30... Am curious to know what I am in store for... I see "Glock" and "Kaboom" associated a lot together...[/quote]
IMO, you are in very little danger of a Kaboom with your G30. I have a G21 and a G30, the chambers are as fully supported as any .45ACP, including my two 1911's. In addition, the .45ACP is a low pressure round, while the .40S&W is a much higher pressure round.
I have head of one incident of a Federal .40 brass having a rupture. Federal took responsibility and recalled the ammo and made the brass thicker. New brass today is reinforced around the web area.
With modern new ammo your odds of having a problem are slim and none with even the .40 caliber Glocks. (The .40 caliber is by far the most problematic).
%99 of case failures are with .40 caliber reloaded ammo, often with lead.
You should never have a problem with good .45 ammo in your Glock 30.
ALL guns blow up from time to time, especially with poor reloads. Take a poll of firsthand kB! experiences on this forum and you will find that every gun under the sun blows up.
Also, know the difference between a case failure and a kB!. A Case Failure is when the brass blows a little hole in the side and gases spew out, usually causing no significant damage.
A kB! is extremely rare and that is when pressures rise greatly in the chamber du to a variety of symptoms including bullet setback, and extremely dirty gun etc. This is when the gun actually blow up!
This happens to all guns.
You can feel the safest with a Glock, because, due to the polymer frame, there has never yet been a person seriously injured with their Glock blows up. The polymer frame absorbs teh blast. People with all steel guns are not always so fortunate as metal shrapnel is potentially launched into their face and hands.
With modern new ammo your odds of having a problem are slim and none with even the .40 caliber Glocks. (The .40 caliber is by far the most problematic).
%99 of case failures are with .40 caliber reloaded ammo, often with lead.
You should never have a problem with good .45 ammo in your Glock 30.
ALL guns blow up from time to time, especially with poor reloads. Take a poll of firsthand kB! experiences on this forum and you will find that every gun under the sun blows up.
Also, know the difference between a case failure and a kB!. A Case Failure is when the brass blows a little hole in the side and gases spew out, usually causing no significant damage.
A kB! is extremely rare and that is when pressures rise greatly in the chamber du to a variety of symptoms including bullet setback, and extremely dirty gun etc. This is when the gun actually blow up!
This happens to all guns.
You can feel the safest with a Glock, because, due to the polymer frame, there has never yet been a person seriously injured with their Glock blows up. The polymer frame absorbs teh blast. People with all steel guns are not always so fortunate as metal shrapnel is potentially launched into their face and hands.
WalterGAII
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Ditto on the safety of firing factory ammo in the G30. I've reloaded .45 brass until it splits and never had a problem with it. On the other hand, I blew up a G21, afte I fired a .400 Cor-Bon round with a setback bullet. If you have a feedramp jam, remove the round and check for setback. Even factory rounds can set back. The bottlenecks are probably more inclined towards setback than straightwalled calibers.
I'm now experimenting with .40 Super, which is a hi-pressure load. I'm a little more concerned than I am with .45 and .400 Cor-Bon.
I'm now experimenting with .40 Super, which is a hi-pressure load. I'm a little more concerned than I am with .45 and .400 Cor-Bon.
There are also a number of reports of HK USP KB's with factory ammo. I think you have to remember there are a hell of a lot of Glocks out there, and a lot of people shooting reloads, super high loads, and lead thru them, none of which Glock recommends. These are the KB's drawing most of the publicity. If you were to worry about a Glock KB, I think the .40 S&W would be the most likely to have a problem.
Correct me if I'm wrong. But it appears that there are more internet Glock groups and internet email Glock forums than any other pistol group, bar none. As a result, we constantly hear the Good, Bad, And Ugly about these polymer Austrian pistols ad nauseum.
Even this general TFL forum has Glock people swarming all over it. Does that mean just about all Glock owners are somehow computer geeks or what <G>
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Even this general TFL forum has Glock people swarming all over it. Does that mean just about all Glock owners are somehow computer geeks or what <G>
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Was gone for the weekend... thanks for the many posts... especially the caution about a feedramp jam and potential bullet setback. In the past I have always visually inspected the bullet (mostly for brass damage) and then promptly rechambered it and fired it. I will now pay more attention to the condition of the projectile itself... Thanks! 
Actually, there are a lot of Linux users. Linux users are generally of the libertarian -esque type. Libertarians are generally well armed. And I don't know about other people, but I'm pretty much dirt poor, (why I'm running linux on a 133Mhz) and so if I can't even afford a nice computer, what makes you think I can afford an HK or Sig? So it's more likely that I go with the Polymer from Austria than anything else. But been looking at the Steyrs as of late, seems like more Glock for your money than a Glock...
Albert
Albert