H&R Survival Rifle

[Smaug]

This is not a SHTF thread, so please don't close it like the last one.

Lots of times, folks talk about a truck gun or a gun to leave somewhere just in case.

This one didn't come up in the last thread, but seems pretty hard to beat. It has a compartment in the stock, and will take .410 bore shotgun and .45 Colt. .410 bore for small game, such as birds, squirrels, and rabbits. .45 Colt for self defense, or heavy .45 Colt for large game. A few of each type of ammo stashed in the stock compartment. They seem to go for around $255, which is a pretty good price, no?

An over/under would be even better, but I don't think they're made any more.

 

[WWWJD]

Wow... I like that!! What's the make and model? I want one.

Geeze... your thread says H&R. Nevermind. Just had my blonde moment for the day.

 

[L_Killkenny]

They're a gimick gun IMO. When they throw the survival monicker on something it isn't really any better than when they throw the tactical moniker on guns and gear. What it means is "let's pay more for a POS because it has a fancy title only a kid would love".

Why in the heck you'd want that in a .410 for $200 when you can buy single shot 12&20ga's all over the place for a $100. Add a butt stock shell holder if it's that important to ya. Is the ability to fire .45 colts thru a SMOOTHBORE really much, if any, of a plus? Buy some slugs for lords sake.

LK

 

[WWWJD]

To heck with the survivor monikers... I just think it looks cool.

 

[Smaug]

L_Kilkenny: It is a rifled barrel, but thanks anyway for your logical and well thought-out reply.

WWWJD: Here's the link:
http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/ShotgunsAndRifles/survivor.asp

To me, the price is beyond critique. The only thing I would criticize is to say that there's no rear sight, so it is probably more useful as a shotgun than as a 100 yd. hunting rifle in .45 Colt.

In the link above, you'll notice that it is made in a rifle version too, which includes scope mount.

One advantage of this design, to my way of thinking, is that since there is no room needed for a bolt to slide back and forth, one gets a longer barrel with shorter overall length compared to a repeater.

 

[Smaug]

To an earlier point, a manufacturer specifying a certain intended use doesn't necessarily spell "BS" to me.

The word 'tactical' has become a marketing gimmick. But some features of tactical guns are truly an aid to tactical use. For instance rails for mounting accessories. And corrosion resistant finishes, and synthetic stocks that will not warp with changing humidity.

In a similar manner, 'survival' doesn't necessarily spell 'BS' to me. To me, it means compact, simple, and effective. If something is marketed as being survival gear, but does not have those traits, then I call BS.

Some more good truck guns or stashed away gun:

Kel-Tec Sub2000:

Kel-Tec SU-16CA: (I like that model because the sight is attached to the stock instead of the end of the barrel; seems more durable)

The Henry AR-7 also qualifies, to me.

I don't believe Marlin still makes the Papoose, but it was about the same thing.

A Ruger 10/22 with a folding stock also qualifies, to me:

I realize there are lots of schools of thoughts as to whether a .22LR, centerfire rifle cartridge, or shotgun is ideal for survival. I'm sure we'll never reach consensus on that.