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I have an old H&R 32 cal Top-Break hammerless revolver that was givin to me in a bag took apart. I am looking for a break down drawing. I think that there is a broken spring. Any help finding a drawing would be nice.
H&R 32 top-break
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The Gun Parts Corp. catalog has breakdowns of some H&R revolvers, but I don't know if they are on-line. Check www.gunpartscorp.com to see.
Those old guns are doozies to take apart and get back together, which is why you got the gift. (The German word "gift" means "poison" and in this case that might be appropriate.)
The most common spring breakage in those guns is the trigger return spring, followed by the hand/lifter spring and the V type sear spring.
Now the bad news. Unless you just like to tinker with old guns, I suggest you keep the gun in the bag and give it to someone else. There are a whole bunch of tricks to assembling those guns and they have a very high frustration factor, which is why most gunsmiths won't even work on them. Plus, they have minimal collector value unless in near new condition, which few are. Average retail value is around $50-75 in working condition, so paying a smith $100 to put one back together doesn't make a lot of sense.
Whatever you decide to do, good luck.
Jim
Those old guns are doozies to take apart and get back together, which is why you got the gift. (The German word "gift" means "poison" and in this case that might be appropriate.)
The most common spring breakage in those guns is the trigger return spring, followed by the hand/lifter spring and the V type sear spring.
Now the bad news. Unless you just like to tinker with old guns, I suggest you keep the gun in the bag and give it to someone else. There are a whole bunch of tricks to assembling those guns and they have a very high frustration factor, which is why most gunsmiths won't even work on them. Plus, they have minimal collector value unless in near new condition, which few are. Average retail value is around $50-75 in working condition, so paying a smith $100 to put one back together doesn't make a lot of sense.
Whatever you decide to do, good luck.
Jim
there are a lot of very knowledgable people about all H&R firearms at www.go2gbo.com under the H&R NEF forum. Someone there might have the schematic you are looking for.
If it is not in excellent condition I would not invest any money or a great deal of heartache getting it back together. If it is ratty you will still have a paperweight is all. I have a very nice one that looks unfired and although I like to take old guns apart to clean and detail them, I would not even begin to tackle this one. At least a few of the old antique pistols like that have side plates you can take off to get at the innards. Just to find out some spring you cannot replace is busted.
True, Dahermit, but I am going to be nasty and ask how many you have made. I have made quite a few and the job is usually frustrating and basically unrewarding. For my own guns, it is a royal PITA. For a professional, taking an hour to make a spring the customer will balk at paying a buck for just doesn't make sense.
Jim
Jim
I like H&R top breaks. Just bought one as they are so neat and inexpensive. The one i got (link posted) will need the origional grips. 98%!!
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?products_id=13019&osCsid=cf23f448b4ab6a9f92b9b565da8c894d
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?products_id=13019&osCsid=cf23f448b4ab6a9f92b9b565da8c894d
I have made several for guns, including a nasty folded flat one. Plus, many springs for other than guns (former machine shop teacher). However, you are looking at spring-making from the perspective of a gunsmith who must make a profit. The rest of us are hobbyists for which the time and the trouble (if we have the skills) is not a consideration for which we may be rewarded with a shootable gun instead of a paper weight.
Reassembling Harrington & Richardsons and Iver Johnsons is definitely an art and requires a LOT of patience. That said, one of the very obvious basic tricks in working on that type of gun is to make little slave pins to hold sub assemblies together while putting them back in the frame.
Even though they have no worth, I enjoy working on them as a form of therapy; Keeps me humble.
Try www.e-gunparts.com for replacement parts and exploded diagrams.
Even though they have no worth, I enjoy working on them as a form of therapy; Keeps me humble.
Try www.e-gunparts.com for replacement parts and exploded diagrams.
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Hey...I have quite a few H&R & IJ revolvers in .38 & .32 S&W and really enjoy shooting them & working on 'em. Their not that hard to repair. I would recommend "Jacks First" for the best diagram as GunParts is not that clear. Good Luck & don't give it away!!!
Hey...I have quite a few H&R & IJ revolvers in .38 & .32 S&W and really enjoy shooting them & working on 'em. Their not that hard to repair. I would recommend "Jacks First" for the best diagram as GunParts is not that clear. Good Luck & don't give it away!!!
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