'Gunzine' Specials : Kimber Triggers

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dewey

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I've been ranting for 2 years about the poor triggers on S&W compared to the ones I read about in the mags;ie, they get 2 3/4 pound SA triggers and mine are 4+. Bought a new Kimber Eclispe 5 inch as I liked the looks and 2 articles I read said they had great triggers which were around 3.1 pound with no travel. Got mine in yesterday and YEP, it's 4 1/2 pounds and a tad catchy. I called Kimber Customer Service and they said the actions were set in the faxtory at 4 1/2 pounds.

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ONCE AGAIN, IT'S OBVIOUS that the gunzine fiolks DO get worked over guns.
It's a nice gun, BTW, and for $1,000 OTD a very good buy. Nice 1 1/2 inch groups with my trash handloads........................................
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dewey
 
Most guns leave the factory with no less than a 4.5 - 5.5 lb trigger pull, I guess for liability issures.

The Gunrags are full of Damn Lies, and should never be believed.

I dont mean to be judgemental, really, but I think just about all the gunwriters are liars, and it is just a question of how much they lie.

My favorite quote from a gunrag goes something like this: "Except for 2 failures to feed, and one failure to eject, this gun functioned flawlessly during our testing." Gotta love that, very reassuring that its a good piece, isnt it.

Another wonderful story I read involved some jackhole testing a certain pistol, dont remember what unfortunately. He recieved it from the manufacturer, and it didnt work right, so he called the manufacturer and told them that they didnt want him to evaluate the one he had sent. So they sent him another one, he tested it, and ranted and raved about how reliable, accurate, etc this gun was. What he failed to mention was that if you buy one and get a lemon, the manufacturer probably isnt going to be as agreeable swapping yours out.

Another misleading thing I have noticed is the reporting of accuracy. They will say something like "this gun will shoot 3 inch groups" then in the small print you find out the 3 inch group was done from a distance of 10 feet, and they threw out the "flyer" that was 6" further away.
 
Yeah, and did you ever read a car mag that tests a new whatever "just like the one you can buy right now at your local dealer"...except for the prototype cam grind, revised timing curve, aftermarket gears...
I can't entirely blame the magazines for wanting to have fun testing a really good factory tweaked anything or the factories for taking advantage of the free PR.
I do think a little honesty thrown in here and there would be a nice touch, however.
 
Hee hee hee

They will say something like "this gun will shoot 3 inch groups" then in the small print you find out the 3 inch group was done from a distance of 10 feet, and they threw out the "flyer" that was 6" further away.
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Sure, don't you know that that is the "Ayoob Count" originated by the famous (or maybe infamous) Mas Ayoob. Shoot five and throw out the two "flyers" harummph. :rolleyes:
 
Give Mas credit

at least he came up with a somewhat plausible reason for the flyer, something to the effect of:

"an auto cycles differently when chambering a round by hand as opposed to chamebering the round itself and this can cause the flyer" (note this is me paraphrasing)

That shows way more creativity than most writers.
 
I believe it went something like " NO mas ! NO M A S ! ! ! "

That spin about the first/last round not chambering correctly like the others REALLY tweaks my wires.

There are some guys that really do the testing correctly. Can't remember the writer but he shot 3 eight round mags with 6 different factory loads and averaged all 144 rounds. He did point out that 4 were his flyers but he still counted them anywho....dewey
 
Best three out of five great for gunzine work. Try that in a match and get laughed home.

First two out of a cold barrel works for sightin in a huntin gun. But only when huntin sumpin that isn't huntin you.

Sam
 
Kimber triggers

I bought a Kimber stainless Gold Match earlier in the year. Out of the box, it had a MEASURED 2 pound trigger, very crisp and clean. They're not all 4.5 lb.

marsh
 
Gun Writers

First, most gun rags are not going to review a gun they know is crap. If they do, they've got to find something positive to say about the gun(except for gun tests magazine). Let's face it, everything revolves around money, in the mag business or any other.

I got pretty tired of reading reviews by the same old names, Ayoob, Clapp, David Arnold, etc. etc, and I notice that they seem to be running out of things to say. I quit buying the magazines. We get better info on forums like this than from any gun magazine.
 
There's an article in Handguns now by Charles Petty about Les Baer's Comanche Monolith--the extended dust cover frame added to a Commander-sized pistol. The tagline says the Monolith version "beefs up this commander-size fighting pistol to robust new levels of performance." Of course, you wonder if a longer dustcover is really "beefing" anything up or making it more "robust." In the text of the article, Petty allows that it's mostly a cosmetic feature.

Then we find out that the Comanche wouldn't group for him. He says this means it got 3" groups at 25 yds from a Ransom Rest. I wouldn't know, but apparently it's more normal to get one ragged hole. He sent it back to Baer, who wanted to replace the pistol but settled for replacing the barrel. With the new barrel groups went to 1.5 inches. Put the old barrel back in, back to 3 inches.

On the one hand, you wonder if Baer would make that swap so easily for me--but at least Petty was honest about how the pistol performed. He could have accepted the other pistol and reviewed it alone.
 
I read...

the same article. Thought it was, all in all , a pretty well done piece. What I didn't find surprising was that instead of lambasting the weapon for crappy performance, he called the manufacturer to complain and wrote about it.
 
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