Gunstock FFL rebellion begins

Dennis Olson

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Fascinating. Is this real? Any corroboration out there?

----- Original Message -----
From: James Woody <jwoody@toltbbs.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 10:00 AM
Subject: The Gunstock FFL Rebellion begins!

On May 15, 2000 the Gunstock Rebellion began in Tecumseh, Michigan. Johnson's sporting goods owner Dave Calibre looked over his lost sales for the weekend which amounted to over 6,000 dollars in gross sales. "Helen, if they pull this crap again we're goint to lose the business"; Dave had no intentions of giving up his long-running business. "Why don't you just tell the FBI and ATF that we really don't need their help anymore?" Dave walked behind the counter, angrier than Helen had seen him since Waco transpired. Dave starting ripping the wire out of his FBI background check computer.

"Helen-make a sign for the front window-No background check necessary." Helen being one step ahead of her hubby pulled the pre-made sign from the back stockroom. "This is the last time thes bastards are sticking it to us Dave", Helen commented as she taped up the sign.

Tuesday May 16 was the busiest day Dave and Helen could ever remember. Word had
spread fast especially in the Patriot community that Dave and Helen had drawn the line. Militia leaders mailed their letters of support and wrote editorials to the local papers in full support of Johnson's sporting goods and the second amendment.

The consensus was that the Klintonistas and BATFaggots had finally pushed the American people too far. If it's a war they want let it start here was the comment from the Lenawee county militia commander. Within the week the Gunstock rebellion had spread to thirty other gunshops in Michigan as word spread that the FFL-holders were trashing their background check computers and mailing letters of intent to the BATFaggots.

The gunshops became a rallying point for the patriots and anti-Klintonista forces in Militiagan much as the Liberty trees of old. News and views were taped in the front windows for all to view notifying them that the revolution had begun. Several senators such as Jesse Helms called in their support from the beltway.

Michigan milita leaders swore to protect the Gunstock rebellion stores with the full might of the second amendment and put a 24hr. armed guard on Johnson's sporting goods which had received threats from the BATFaggots that they had better take out some fire insurance.

Wayne La Pierre of the NRA finally was pushed into a corner and called in the full support of the NRA. George Bush Jr. claimed if elected he would repeal all gun control laws passed since 1968. Militia leaders stated they would settle for nothing less than full repeal of all gun-laws. Klinton threatened to have the National Guard called in to enforce the Federal edicts of the imperium. As of tonight the stand-off ensues as more citizens rally into the warring camps of gun views.

Klinton acknowledges that his computer failure over the weekend had backfired and had the opposite effect of making handguns and rifles available in Michigan without a background check.


[This message has been edited by Dennis Olson (edited May 15, 2000).]
 
It's a fantasy. Nice, but not even remotely close to reality. Kinda like the end of UC.

I've shown my dealers the exact paragraph in the ATF regs that says the sale may proceed if the system is down. They've all said, "Yeah, so what? Are *you* gonna back me up when they kick in my door and shoot me?" Given that cower-in-the-bunker attitude, what are the odds that there'll be open rebellion?
 
Are *you* gonna back me up when they kick in my door and shoot me?"

The answer to that question MUST be an unqualifed ABSOLUTELY. By LOTS of people. The cower in a bunker mentality is not just limited to the gun dealers. There's a share for lots more folks....
 
"...showed them the regs..."

Okay, here's what you do. Go to a gun shop. during this or the next computer glitch. A large gun shop, and one that doesn't support RKBA (like Looter's World in Phx). Ask to buy a gun. Get refused the sale. Sue both the gun shop for damages and the fed for intimidation tactics.

If you have a CCW permit you won't have standing since CCW would allow you to go around the check.

Tape record and camcord the altercation if legal in your state (most are). Get a gunnie lawyer to advise you first.

Or you can just whine.

Rick
 
Rick, CCW/CHL/whatever the hell it is in your neck of the woods doesn't mean jackdammit in Colorado. I still have to jump through the hoops every time I buy a gun, and if the system's down, TFB.

FWIW, there's *one* dealer that I would back up with force of arms if necessary, and she knows it.

Back way the hell off on the accusations, boys. Some of you don't know or have forgotten what my stance on RKBA is; personally, I think Henry Bowman was too easy on the feds. However, if some weenie chooses to cower and gibber instead of staring the beast in the face and telling them to bring it, well, that's his own lookout.
 
Just got back today, so can't be sure. But the store you mentioned does exist, and where the story states. A few other things make me believe it might be true, but I'll do some checking and get back with you.
 
BTW, let's drop the gay bashing ... 'BATFaggots'. Those folks should be our allies, and we can leave that kind of name calling out, alright?

Regards from AZ
 
Colombe, how could it be "true"? Did you miss the fact that the story starts May 15th and describes the following week, but it was posted the 14th? Hello? It's fiction, and not particularly well written fiction.

BATFaggot? Is that a character from an Anne Rice novel?

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Protect your Right to Keep and Bear Arms!

[This message has been edited by Gorthaur (edited May 17, 2000).]
 
Unfortunately it would be a rare FFL holder that would stray from the flock...

No offense intended towards them (I know there are many fine ones), but one generalization that can be made about _every_ FFL holder is that they are willing to "go along to get along". Further, (whether they've thought of it this way or not) they have begged for, and paid for, the "privilege" to act as gov't informants.

AGAIN! I KNOW there are a lot of great guys and gals out there who hold FFL liscenses! This is not a flame against them. Please just consider if maintaining your liscense is really providing the *SERVICE* to the gun community that you had intended.
 
>exact paragraph in the ATF regs

Coinneach, oh Wise and Learned, a citation, please? :) Might one be so bold as to pray for a quotation?

Thought it was improper, would love to have proof. Thanks for confirming it.

Bentley
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by westex:
Jeff - Please explain to me why "those folks should be our allies" any more than any other "folks"?[/quote]

I don't think that Jeff is saying that they should be allies more than anyone else. Just equally. We need all the help we can get, and if we exclude segments of the population from the RKBA cause because we have some beef with them outside of gun issues, we shoot ourselves in the foot.
 
lets leave "that kind of name calling behind".
I suppose it would have been alright to call them names so long as the name is in no way related to a politically protected class of people.
Never saw anyone bashing gays here, just calling the ATF faggots. Kinda like calling someone an idiot, a moron, bamboozler etc. If ATF had been called a group of morons, would you have stood to defend the intellectually challenged people of this country? I have my doubts.
No one was singled out or demeaned in any way for their sexual behavior in this thread. Seems like the thought police have seaped into the firing line. In the "less sophisticated" parts of the country, the term faggot is just another insult thrown out very loosely and often does not connotate homosexuality. Please take things in the proper context before pleading for more "sensitivity". I never saw anyone claiming the ATF were homosexuals or demeaning them for their sexual conduct.

[This message has been edited by Piggy (edited May 18, 2000).]
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Piggy:
Never saw anyone bashing gays here, just calling the ATF faggots.[/quote]

So, if someone called the ATF ni**ers, that wouldn't be bashing blacks at all? Come now. Let's not give the antis more ammo than they already have.
 
Cut me some slack, I was beat. And the place in question does exist, owned by the person listed. The militia is active in that area. I had been out of town, so I wouldn't have known whether it was true or not. Knowing the area, it wouldn't have been too hard to believe.
 
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