gun values ?

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rebs

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I see prices are on the rise with the upcoming election of president.
Will they stay up after the election or drop back down ? Local gun shops are selling guns at a very high rate with more and more women buying guns as well.
Is now a good time to buy a couple guns with the plan that values will continue to rise ? Or if the current president looses will prices drop back down ?
I guess what I am asking is if this is the right time to buy guns as an investment ?
 
gun prices will stay pretty stable. Gas is expensive, not a lot of folks with extra $$$ to spend on guns and ammo. Commodities prices are dropping - China is going in for a hard landing. More than likely we may be facing another recession which should keep gun prices suppressed somewhat.

I won't buy guns right now unless I find some good deals. I'm not buying any ammo. But, if Platinum falls substantially (and Rhodium), I'll be diverting some funds in that direction.
 
Everything is going up in price (food, fuel, metals, etc) Everything. Guns and ammo (especially) are no exception
 
I can't see politics making any difference. Yes, the cost of energy will make a difference. No, guns are not a good investment for most of us.

If you enjoy shooting and want to make a wise investment, you need to start reloading.
 
Considering the fear around the elections in November, the costs will continue to rise on firearms and ammo. The supply will also at some point dwindle. I think the perfect case in point is that Ruger is at max production, and has ceased taking new orders until at least May. This will have an impact on the supplies at some point, and I am sure many of the other gun manufacturers are at or near max production as well. My advice at this point is if there is something you truly want firearms related, you best get it before November...
 
Well, I have said this before, but I think a growing interest in firearms is driving at least some of this. I know many states are restoring Second Amendment rights and citizens are taking advantage. Also, I think the issue with Ruger has more to do with some very popular new gun releases than politics.
 
Ask yourself, are gunstore owners holding on to inventory? Or are they selling it as fast as they can?

If there were a way to buy gun futures then possibly it could be part of an overall investment strategy. But to buy a commodity like guns, pay the overhead costs and taxes and actually take delivery then hold them until you can sell for enough to recoup your costs plus whatever ROI you're willing to settle for seems a bit wishful.
 
I would not buy them now as a speculative "investment" since your timing has to be pretty good. If you need to ask this question now then you do not know the particular firearm market well enough.

However, inflation is climbing so if you want firearms for yourself then buying them now is better than next year.
 
Go Buy Guns to shoot and hunt and protect your family or property, Not for "Investment" Go Buy Gold & silver if you want to invest..........
 
10-4 on the tools. The only folks I see making money on gun are dealers when selling used firearms. They take in trade for half on new value (if you are lucky) and the can then sell for 25% off of the new price. Just the way I see it.
 
I have bought a few guns in the last 4 years for my collection, over 100 total. Unless I have most I want now I have noticed less guns available from Gun Broker. For example. H&R top breaks have almost dried up as have with most of the all metal pistols. I am sure it is due to inflation like everything else.
I don't buy for investments myself or buy because they are a tool. It is an addiction alike to gambling which I don't do. It makes me happy.:)
 
I was in the local gun store today and they are sold out of every used AR 15 they had and jumped the price on new ones by $100.00 or more. One month ago they had a Colt match target flat top for 1250.00 new and now it is 1375.00, a used Colt match target with carry handle 999.00 a month ago and now 1150.00
An RIA tactical match was 699.00 and now 799.00
These increases are just in one month. Are they just taking advantage of the demand or what ?
 
If we are going to discuss the effect of a presidential election on the price of firearms and ammo, I will close this thread.

There are any number of places on the internet for that discussion, but not here, please.
 
This is a good thread and something I noticed. Prices are down on some antique and collectible vintage guns, such as old Winchesters 73 86 92 94 95 models, and old Savage 99's in .250 .300 calibers, including the once high priced takedown models. Yet demand is strong for handguns. Remington, Auto Ordinance, etc. have brought the prices down on brand new M1911 handguns. Pre-ban AR-15's that were $1500-$2000 guns are on GB for under $1000.

Here's what happens, someone brings out a desirable gun, it sells for big money. Everyone is watching it on GB. The next one may sell for more, then everyone digs them out and throws them on, looking for a big payoff. Suddenly the market is flooded and the price drops to 1/2 of the first few listed.

It's become just like Ebay, the first one to strike while the iron is hot, gets the most out of the gun, the later sales tend to be for less.

The internet has shown just how rare most guns are not. They may be rare in a local area or state, but on a worldwide basis the net reaches, they are not rare.

Buyers are also getting tired of the auction style GB Ebay type formats, who wants to sit and watch a gun for a week or two, to buy it. Most guys just want to negotiate a price, then cash and carry. The shipping/transfer on interstate guns adds costs and waiting time, and the old timers just say screw that, and buy elsewhere.

Inflation affects gun prices in an opposite way, when food, gasoline, taxes, utilities go up, ammo prices and gun prices go down- people have less expendable income for hobbies such as shooting and hunting. If they already have 5-10 guns, there is not a dire need to get more when inflation hits.

Let's face it, the only time you really have to buy a gun, is if you don't own any at all, then you will pay top.

I see a lot of non-gun people walking through the gun shops, with their wives or girlfriends, buying handguns. Some of these people look like, they don't know which end of the gun the bullet comes out of. But crime has spiked up and they are scared, so they are buying a handgun.
 
well, any shop that sells second-hand firearms is usually going to have a huge mark-up, so no, I don't necessarily think gun prices are on the rise because they've always been overpriced. my local gun pawnshop has quite a few firearms with inflated prices. one of the guys working there told me they usually look at the prices on gunbroker.com, unfortunately, gunbroker.com isn't a very good litmus test for fair, accurate pricing.
 
Buying any manufactured product as an investment is a tricky proposition. It's a matter of trying to predict what will be considered collectable at some time in the somewhat distance future.

Consider things today. Some old guns are highly sought after, collectable and are selling for a stiff premium. And some are just old guns.
 
I buy guns because I like guns. I buy classic revolvers because I like classic revolvers. I am very fond of .38 Spl target revolvers with 6" barrels. But I also like the duty revolvers with fixed sights. I don't buy them because I think I'll make a profit on them. Absolutely the one thing that I am not thinking about when I make a purchase.

I invest in CD's, blue chip stocks and so on. My guns are my hobby, related to my line of work, and interest. Not an investment.
 
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