Gun show

Jmcdowel

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I am headed to a gun show this weekend to buy a new hand gun. I have never been to one and dont know what to look for and what to avoid. I, just like everyone else, am looking for the best deal possible. Should i just stick with dealer booths? Only buy new?

Also, I am going to spend NO MORE then $450. I am looking at either a 9mm or a 40. For that $ amount, what should i look into? I like the looks of a 1911, and i know that those are well out of my price range, but those are the looks i like. I dont mind the looks of a "squared" gun (glock), but I would rather stay away from something like that.

I will be target shooting and using it for home defence. I want something that has a lighter pull on the trigger. My SW9VE's trigger is way too heavy.

Also, i dont want a comp gun. Something with a 4" or 5" barrel.
Please help me choose!!!
 
My gun show advice would be to start by not believing ANYTHING that someone selling at gun show tells you. If you can't verify it visually or by common sense then it is suspect. Closely examine anything you are serious about, if the seller gives you any trouble about handling or disassembling a gun (although they may want to disassembly it for you, which is fine) - walk away. There's some reason they don't want you to see its innards.
 
I couldn't figure it out from your post, but if this is your first gun, you might be better off buying from a local dealer. Gun show deals are hit or miss are bargins are few and far between.

Not to mention a local dealer might be more up front with you on prices and or any information on used guns since you might be a potential return customer.
 
hard to find a "good" deal at most gun shows.Do some research,look around at stores that sell pistols and see the going rate and compare their price at the gun shows.Over the years I have found some deals at shows, but they are few and far between, and I go to 4 or 5 gun shows a year.
 
If your looking for cheaper - don't buy at gun show

You really need to know what you want before you go to a gunshow. Look around and find out and then when you see it at the gunshow for a good price...... now you know you're getting a good deal.

Otherwise, you may just only think you got a good deal.

If your uncertain to what you want - you may not be too happy with what you buy at a gun show.

A gun store may be more apt to be better for you as you can check them out and then go home and price check around. At a gunshow you either buy that day or wait until the next time they come around - and they just may not have what you want by then nor for the price you thought.

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So, it's a factor of wanting to buy but only having that day to decide. Not good for getting the best deal. Unless you know ahead of time what you want and are willing to pay for it.
 
I have to agree with the local shop idea... go to the gun show but

be prepared for one hell of a mess.... late afternoon is going to be better than 1st thing... way too many folks at the last one.

By the way, this would not be the one here in Greenville would it?

Private sales at the gun show will be 50 to 100 dollars more than what you would pay at a shop. So the only reason to do a private sale is for a used gun you really want or to not have to do the government paper work....

I'd really go with 9mm... personally I think 40 is overated but there are many who will disagree with me... the one thing that they can't deny is that 9mm will cost you a whole lot less to shoot.
 
My experience is that shows are usually no better than a local dealer...price wise. My best deal at a gun show was $5 burger and fries.
 
Kreyzhorse gave you great advice.

If you don't have alot of experience with firearms,a gun show would be THE WORST place to buy a firearm.

Now if you find a dealers booth that is from a gunstore you can go to after the show in your area,then you might buy something from them but make sure they have the same buyers rules for the guns at the gun show as they do for the the guns they sell at their retail store.

Enjoy the gun show,maybe buy some ammo,look at EVERYTHING,THAT'S FREE!

And in general,enjoy yourself there.

One more thing,if you do intent to buy stuff,take cash but don't flash it around.

Cash lets you deal.

At a gun show cash is king.
 
Make a quick pass stopping to look at the prices at the larger dealers to get a price range figured out. Then go back around more slowly to make sure you didn't miss anything.

Some of the best deals can be at the smaller booths, but they don't have a big selection so the odds of them having what you want aren't as good.

I don't know anything about your area, but in this region (DFW, TX) most dealers with storefronts sell their wares cheaper at the shows.
 
I agree, there are seldom many deals to be had at gun shows. They are, however a great place to see and handle some interesting things that may not commonly come through the stores in the area. That's what I usually look out for.

Oh, and they are a great place to get accessories. I can usually get mags much cheaper at shows than in stores, plus theres always an array of nice Glaco, Bianchi, and Don Hume Holsters, which I have to order off the net otherwise, as no local shop carries any decent selection.

By all means, go and look around. Handle some different guns and see if anything catches your eye. Just don't expect huge savings over store prices on most things.
 
1. Carry Cash (enough to buy anything you think you might potentially be interested in). Bring the $450 limit you mentioned (plus a little more).

2. Bring your S&W as trade material. You've already indicated dissatisfaction with the trigger...trade it in on something you would rather have. You should be able to get ~$350 or more allowance towards something else (perhaps a 1911). $350 plus your $450 "boot" gets you into a potential $800's worth of buying power. Naturally, your weapon should be clean, unloaded, secured in its original case, have all accessories present, and be cleared/inspected by the security officers at the door. Walking around the show with a small day pack and your visible gun case tucked under your arm will engender several queries from vendors. Usually someone behind the table will simply say..."What ya got there?". This indicates an interest on the part of the dealer/vendor to buy or trade. Don't be shy. Haggle. Let the vendor know which of their displayed wares you are interested in.

3. Ohio is a funny place (I lived there a few years ago). Some vendors will function as FFLs and conduct NICS check. Some operate as "Private Collectors" selling their collection on a cash & carry basis with no paperwork. Don't be suprised in either case. You may notice other folks walking around carrying cased firearms. Ask them what THEY have for sale or trade. You can always do a face-to-face private sale (although local law or gunshow rules may require you to take completion of your sale/trade out to the parking lot, off the site, or have you arrange to meet at a later time/place). Normally not a huge issue. Few gunshows anywhere in the country allow customer-to-customer transactions inside the venue. Vendors have to pay for their tables. It's a breach of etiquette to conduct cash business transactions in front of folks who have paid to turn a profit for the weekend. Take any privately agreed to deal out to your automobile, conduct your buy/sell/trade, and return into the show to enjoy the rest of your time. I normally exchange drivers license info with the person I am buying from. You can even write up a brief bill-of-sale if that makes you comfortable. "I, so-and-so, sold/purchased/traded handgun "X", serial # "XXXX", to/from "so-and-so", of this OHIO address, on this date, for $XXXX". Most shows stamp your hand when you pay entry fee, allowing you to leave/re-enter as often as you like. Most shows have their rules posted at the show entrance and usually have have an information table at the entrance. Someone will be sitting there who can answer your questions about what is allowed and what isn't. It's a gun show and you are not a criminal. Simply ask what the rules are concerning private face-to-face sales (if you are not sure).

4. Of the guns you mentioned as under consideration in your link, any would be nice. I think you would be especially pleased with the Taurus PT92. It's a value-based sleeper, very reliable, and (IMHO) every bit as good as the Beretta 92 it's patterned on.

5. Most of what everyone else has already posted is true, but I'll be the dissenting voice when it comes to prices and what you might find. I rarely attend a show where I don't come home with some kind of a good deal. I occasionally pay a bit too much for something I really want, but we are talking relative "small change" in the scope of things. The beauty of gun shows is that there is a huge selection to peruse and everyone is in competion with each other. This encourages a certain amount of haggling/bartering to occur.

6. Gun shows are prime hunting grounds for deals on good USED guns.

7. My prefered technique upon entry to the show is to go get a walk around cup of coffee, take a deep breath, and do one or two quick circuits of the floor. I ignore every new gun I see and focus strictly on scanning for used weapons in nice shape. It's like looking for gold nuggets in a stream bed or Easter Eggs in a meadow. Scan, look, note price, and keep moving. Have in mind the top three or four models you are looking for and look for those first; ignore everything else (unless you decide you just have to buy beef jerky :) ). You can spend the rest of the day comparing prices on brand new guns (of which there will be numerous overpriced examples). The last afternoon of the gunshow is usually the best time to get a vendor to drop prices on anything. They need to turn a profit for their weekend efforts and will sometimes be more inclined to deal if business has been slow. On the other hand...most desireable models at decent prices will have already dissappeared by the end of the show.

8. ENJOY the show. It's fun. Relax and browse. If you find what you are looking for...great. If not...you enjoyed a great opportunity to inspect and talk about a lot of guns while seeing how shows actually run. Buy some beef jerky :) .

Hope this helps.
 
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There a few 1911s out there in the > 450 range CAI or Rock inland. Those are price for a new one. Just food for thought.
 
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as a newbie to firearms here in the U.S. ,i,ve been to some gun shows and done the research on gun shop prices here where i live and there is one dealer here who is cheaper and good aftersales service ,which you cant get at a gun show "here today and gone tomorrow. went to a gun show last w/end and they were selling recon glocks for more than i can get a new one for here in n/e ohio. as these very more experienced people here have said beware at the gun shows.i,m waiting for the special deal 9mm glocks to come in,3mags and n/sights for a real good price:):)
 
I too will go to the Lima Show, I also sell at the Toledo show ( Feb 21,22). My advice is;
1 Buy New if possible, especially if this is your first handgun.
2 get a guarantee, If the seller dose'nt have a business card where he can be reached if you have problems, walk away, or you can take your chances.
3 A lot of times you can buy a NEW gun for what some of the sellers want for an used gun.
4 Know what you are buying, and what it's worth. this goes along with #3

I am local to the Toledo area, and I know that if someone has a problem with what I sold them they will come knocking on my door.
 
Well, i am not new to the whole handgun market. I have owned a few. Its just havent shot alot of handguns. I have researched alot over the past month or so. I have come up with a list of 8 different kinds of guns that i am going to look at. I know that it will be what feels good in my hands. Here is the list:

TAURUS:
PT 92
PT 99
PT 911
24/7
917

EAA:
Witness

RUGER:
P89
P89D
 
And i have everything wrote down in a note book that i am going to take with me. It has all the guns I am looking at with the prices of them (from budsgunshop.com). So, I guess if i cant get a better price at the show, i might be able to at least get to see all the guns that i am interested in and get to see how they feel.

Is budsgunshop.com a good place to buy? I know that just about everything that i am looking at is lower then anywhere else. But, they seem to be out of alot of the guns that i am looking at too.
 
Dont waste your time or money. Everything is WAY,WAY overpriced.I just came back from my first and last gun show in Las Vegas. You can find a good deal on Beef Jerky-if you buy in mass!
 
NevMike, check out Black Rifle Armory and Discount Firearms. They seem to have the best prices here in Vegas, at least the last time I was hunting down a new gun.
 
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