Gun show loophole amendment defeated by Republican majority

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Gun show loophole amendment defeated by Republican majority

By John Sanko
Denver Rocky Mountain News Capitol Bureau

If the so-called gun show loophole is closed this year, it won't be the Colorado legislature's doing.

A constitutional amendment asking voters to decide if there should be criminal background checks on all buyers at gun shows was killed by the Republican majority in the Senate State Affairs Committee, with a 5-4 party-line vote Monday.

Its defeat means SAFE Colorado must collect more than 62,000 signatures to get the issue before the state's voters in November.

The hearing produced some surprises even if the vote didn't.

At one point, Sen. Jim Dyer, D-Durango, pulled a wad of bills from his pocket to challenge a man's claim that more background checks aren't needed.

"I can buy a gun on the street three blocks from here quicker than I can at a gun show," testified Bill Dietrick of the Colorado State Shooting Association.

Dyer immediately reached into his pocket, took $110 from his wallet, and thrust the money into Dietrick's face.

"Let's go," Dyer said. "You say you can buy a gun within three blocks. Let's see you do it. Let's go right now."

Sen. MaryAnne Tebedo, R-Colorado Springs, quickly ended the confrontation, which clearly showed the void between the pro- and anti-gun control forces.

"I guess I had an Irish moment," Dyer said after the hearing. "You hear all of this bull. I just wanted to call his bluff."

Sen. Pat Pascoe, D-Denver, was challenged by Republican critics of her SCR 9, which was similar to a measure killed earlier in the House.

"I'm not surprised," she said afterwards. "It's always not much fun to go through the harassment from the anti-gun-control folks."

Sens. Tebedo and Jim Congrove, R-Arvada, said they considered Pascoe's proposal for registration of firearms and questioned whether background check information would be kept secret.

"There's a database out there of who, what, where and when and that bothers people," Congrove said.

Federally licensed dealers who sell weapons at gun shows are already required to run background checks on buyers, but private sellers are not. That creates a loophole for criminals and underage people to buy guns, says SAFE Colorado members and others.

Arnie Grossman, a leader of SAFE Colorado, said he remains optimistic that the measure will get on the ballot in November.

Another hearing on the wording of the ballot initiatitive, which has been challenged by anti-gun-control groups, is scheduled for Wednesday. The issue is likely to end up in court.

"I think they're looking for every possible technicality and flaw they can find, but I have not yet heard a single argument of substance that really could stop this process," Grossman said.

Contact John Sanko at (303) 892-5404 or sankoj@rockymountainnews.com.


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LawDog

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Now we're "anti-gun-control-groups." How 'bout pro-freedom? 'Course that doesn't spin nearly as well.

Sen. Powers/CO Senate Prez should be commended for stuffing this nonsense squarely in the most pro-committee he could (& did).

In case any didn't catch what this concurrent resolution would have done was to allow SAFE (Sane Alternatives to the Firearm Epidemic - after the much-touted (Clinto at a SAFE kick-off 4/12) 35-year low re gun violence - what epidemic?!) to place their "gunshow loophole" initiative on the ballot without having to gather any signatures at all. They now have to actually go through the process = 62,000+ signatures gathered in a specific timeframe to get it on the ballot.

There are at least 3X challenges to their wording for the initiative currently in our courts to the wording. As I'm aware, the NRA is nowhere to be found. & yes, RMGO (CO state GOA affiliate) is.

CSSA/Bill (above) does do the testifying & "take 'em to lunch" bit but RMGO & (dare I say?)TRT are in their faces & telling them "absolutely not! Nope! We ain't playing these damned games any longer."

I will say emphatically that TRT has had a huge impact with our mobilization & demos. We have taken our no-compromise message to the streets& I firmly believe that sends a very clear message and stiffens the backbones of at least a few polititians.

Colorado was, & still is, a huge focal point for the gun control debate nationally. That we have managed to beat back almost every attack against our rights is amazing to me and utterly stunning to the grabbers.

Any who think that you can't do the "no compromise" bit is nuts, IMNSHO.

You can take'em to lunch, & smooze 'em in the halls, & all that, but in the end you must tell 'em that if they attempt any further infringements on your freedom, they will loose their job AND you will refuse to obey their stupid little laws any longer.

Draw the line & stand fast!
 
And, make no mistake. This is still a huge uphill battle (re the background checks at gunshows "loophole" - & it's not a loophoole, it's the damn law!) & will continue to be till the stake is driven straight through these buttheads' hearts.

If the "loophole" is closed, nothing will be solved, and then, next year, we'll have to close the rest of the private transfer "loopholes."

It will never end till we - WE, yes you & me, personally & in their face - put a stop to it.
 
You mean the whole debate was over whether they'd be allowed to BYPASS the prescribed requirements to get their initiative on the ballot?

How ARROGANT do you have to be to believe that your particular point of view is so important that you should be allowed to bypass your state's Constitution to pass the law????
 
Lawdog - correct me if I am mistaken; but wasn't the guy who threw the bills an ANTI, and the guy made to look like a fool PRO gun?

He was saying that he could buy a gun down the street to sound like: "Criminals don't need gunshows anyway".


PLEASE someone correct me if I'm mistaken.


Battler.
 
LABGRADE...do you guys need any financial support???? (TRT)I don't have much...but I would like to help fight the good fight in Colo..
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