After buying several new guns over the past few months plus the guns I already owned, I have started saving for a gun safe. The safe is to protect the guns from theft and from fire. Give me any expierences with purchasing, moving and maintaining your safes. Also give any dealers\wholesalers here in the midwest\mid-south region that makes good deals on their products.
Gun Safes
- Thread starter semo
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Semo, Check out National Security, They are located in Utah. I just bought one from them in the spring. Well built and finished nicely. Thought they had the best for the money. The dealer I purchased from charged me $150. to deliver and set up. Many different sizes and configurations to suit individual needs.
Hope this helps
Happy Shooting
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Hope this helps
Happy Shooting
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semo:
As loknload said, National Security has many different sizes and configurations. I've had mine since 1988 and am very well pleased with it. Would I buy another one from National Security? Yes. and soon too, I hope.
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As loknload said, National Security has many different sizes and configurations. I've had mine since 1988 and am very well pleased with it. Would I buy another one from National Security? Yes. and soon too, I hope.
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"Lead, follow or get the HELL out of the way."
My safe weighed 1000lbs. The dealer laid planks across floor to basement steps. I had already beefed up the steps on the underside.
They lined the walls with plywood at the bottom of steps. It took 4 of us to hoist it down,Once down they used PVC dowels to roll across the floor to the place I wanted it.
They had just purchased a $5000. stair crawler and could not use at my place because it didn't have enough room for it. They did a good job and no damages to house or safe.
Hope this helps
Just a little more info from my first post
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They lined the walls with plywood at the bottom of steps. It took 4 of us to hoist it down,Once down they used PVC dowels to roll across the floor to the place I wanted it.
They had just purchased a $5000. stair crawler and could not use at my place because it didn't have enough room for it. They did a good job and no damages to house or safe.
Hope this helps
Just a little more info from my first post
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Ned Roundtree
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First check your insurance policy. Mine has a little clause that gives me a discount if the gun safe weighs more than 600 lbs empty. Secondly, always buy bigger than you think you might need. Mine is a Winchester Safe.
Fourdiamonds
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Agree with Ned. Buy one bigger than you think you need. Then redhead it to the concrete slab or somehow secure it down strongly. Know of a case where bad guys backed a stake bed with a lift through the garage door, threw a chain around the safe, ripped it from back wall studs(connected to wall in back of safe) dragged it out rolled it on lift. Was driving away raising lift and was gone in less than 2 minutes. Secure it to the flood strongly. Buy a good brand-peace of mind!!!
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A guy near my house bought a Browning, loaded it up, and at some point went on vacation. Some scum decided to break in and try to crack his safe. They spent enough time trying to do so, that they sent out for a pizza delivery, ate the pizza, and continued trying to get into it. They never did. I bought a Browning. 'sides, it has a pretty picture painted on it 
Whatever you decide on, heed the advice to get the next size larger.
Whatever you decide on, heed the advice to get the next size larger.What about the Remingtons they seem to always have at Sam's Club? Somebody told me once there's really only two companys that make gun safes in the US, and everybody else just has their "finishing touches" put on them. Any truth to that?
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I see that you're in Cape. There's a company in Belleville Ill (across from St. Louis) that sells Liberty. That's where I bought from. They usually have a table at the Ill. gunshows.
Of course I too bought bigger than I needed and now I could use another safe. This one is too full
Of course I too bought bigger than I needed and now I could use another safe. This one is too full
You can purchase from Ft. Knox dealer direct.
You will need to figure out the delivery end though. I had my first Yeager mod. shipped to a local mover who set it up in my home for 100 bucks as I recall. It was a great safe and had a good fire rating. One plus, the vent hole on the top is threaded and this came in handy years later, after I had sold it to my bro inlaw. He wanted the save in his bonus room over the garage in the house he was building. No problem, installed a eyebolt in the threaded hole and up she went through a window opening. Good folks to work with!
Hank
You will need to figure out the delivery end though. I had my first Yeager mod. shipped to a local mover who set it up in my home for 100 bucks as I recall. It was a great safe and had a good fire rating. One plus, the vent hole on the top is threaded and this came in handy years later, after I had sold it to my bro inlaw. He wanted the save in his bonus room over the garage in the house he was building. No problem, installed a eyebolt in the threaded hole and up she went through a window opening. Good folks to work with!
Hank
Jeff Thomas
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Someone on TFL gave me this tip a long time ago - check out:
http://www.recguns.com/XIIIB1b.html
And, the best advice I've gotten about safes is (1) focus on buying a high quality safe - not a good place to save too much money ...; (2) buy a bigger one than you think you'll need - you'll fill it up anyway; and (3) hide the safe well - think this over carefully, and be clever.
Two schools of thought. Make the safe obvious, and no one will bother burglarizing you because it is too much trouble. Other school of thought says the BG's will come armed and ready, and will give you a simple choice - open your safe or lose your life, or someone else's.
Also, get a dehumidifier, and some canisters of silica gel for moisture absorption. And, make sure it has excellent fire protection.
Fort Knox is the only high quality safe co. I've found that will make modifications to their production safes if you have a tight or unusual fit.
Good luck.
[This message has been edited by Jeff Thomas (edited February 16, 2000).]
http://www.recguns.com/XIIIB1b.html
And, the best advice I've gotten about safes is (1) focus on buying a high quality safe - not a good place to save too much money ...; (2) buy a bigger one than you think you'll need - you'll fill it up anyway; and (3) hide the safe well - think this over carefully, and be clever.
Two schools of thought. Make the safe obvious, and no one will bother burglarizing you because it is too much trouble. Other school of thought says the BG's will come armed and ready, and will give you a simple choice - open your safe or lose your life, or someone else's.
Also, get a dehumidifier, and some canisters of silica gel for moisture absorption. And, make sure it has excellent fire protection.
Fort Knox is the only high quality safe co. I've found that will make modifications to their production safes if you have a tight or unusual fit.
Good luck.
[This message has been edited by Jeff Thomas (edited February 16, 2000).]
Don't just rely on a gun safe, that is a great start. You need to back it up with a quality alarm system. I worked a burglary of a residence a few years back where they peeled the gun safe open like a sardine can. This was a name brand gun safe that all would recognize. In fact I saw it named on this thread. They attacked the safe with tools found on site in the victims garage and no torch was used. They went in from the top and didn't even attempt the door. The people were on vacation and discovered the theft when they returned home. We have since recovered a few of the $25000.00 worth of guns and jewelry that was taken. Be sure and write all of your serial numbers and a detailed discriptions down and don't keep it in the safe with the guns...7th Fleet
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I concur about the alarm system.
I was compelled by certain events this past year to secure my arms and reloading components. Besides the Fort Knox safe I added a monitored alarm system just for the armory area (what else would you call it)?
Had the installer add an "opening under duress" code, systems disarms normally but makes a silent drop with the duress code. Also added a board that allows remote access to system from any phone, call and check system , if you forget to arm before leaving house, dial in and turn system on. Also changed out the tumbler lock on the safe for the S&G electronic keypad. You can easily change combinations at will with this, plus you can get in fast if set up normally. You can also set this up for a 10 min delayed opening. This might (or might not) help you live an extra 10 mins, maybe enough time for the cops to respond (or not) to the duress drop in a violent home invasion, it will take 10 mins to see if you entered the proper code. A small hideout gun close to the safe is an idea also.
The next layer I'm thinking about adding is the gas dispenser. They make one that looks like a smoke detector and installs up in the ceiling (only thing showing is the dispenser), holds multiple large cans of OC spray that you can contact to the IR detector (or glass break, door contact, ect)on your system, will fill the whole house with gas each time it trips. Great for vacation time.
Still won't keep the die hards from robbing or killing you but it might discourage the half hearted ones.
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I was compelled by certain events this past year to secure my arms and reloading components. Besides the Fort Knox safe I added a monitored alarm system just for the armory area (what else would you call it)?
Had the installer add an "opening under duress" code, systems disarms normally but makes a silent drop with the duress code. Also added a board that allows remote access to system from any phone, call and check system , if you forget to arm before leaving house, dial in and turn system on. Also changed out the tumbler lock on the safe for the S&G electronic keypad. You can easily change combinations at will with this, plus you can get in fast if set up normally. You can also set this up for a 10 min delayed opening. This might (or might not) help you live an extra 10 mins, maybe enough time for the cops to respond (or not) to the duress drop in a violent home invasion, it will take 10 mins to see if you entered the proper code. A small hideout gun close to the safe is an idea also.
The next layer I'm thinking about adding is the gas dispenser. They make one that looks like a smoke detector and installs up in the ceiling (only thing showing is the dispenser), holds multiple large cans of OC spray that you can contact to the IR detector (or glass break, door contact, ect)on your system, will fill the whole house with gas each time it trips. Great for vacation time.
Still won't keep the die hards from robbing or killing you but it might discourage the half hearted ones.
[This message has been edited by Nukem (edited February 17, 2000).]
National Security.
I bought one in 1988 and have moved it about 5 times (4 times myself). The door is 3/8" thick vs. 1/4" on most other safes and it comes off easily, making the safe easier to move.
Make sure to bolt it to the floor. I recommend you locally reinforce the floor if it is not directly located on concrete.
Also check out recguns.com for more info on safes. Go bigger than needed.
Albin
I bought one in 1988 and have moved it about 5 times (4 times myself). The door is 3/8" thick vs. 1/4" on most other safes and it comes off easily, making the safe easier to move.
Make sure to bolt it to the floor. I recommend you locally reinforce the floor if it is not directly located on concrete.
Also check out recguns.com for more info on safes. Go bigger than needed.
Albin
oberkommando
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7TH, thats what the booby trapped keg of black is for.
Bought biggest and still need another one, guess its just those dang 22's taking up all the space. Get tall one so top is harder to access. Mine has about 2 feet of room above it.
Bought biggest and still need another one, guess its just those dang 22's taking up all the space. Get tall one so top is harder to access. Mine has about 2 feet of room above it.