Gun lock rule OK'd

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Gun lock rule OK'd
S. Miami officials applaud new law
BY EUNICE PONCE
eponce@herald.com


Hoping to keep kids away from guns, the city of South Miami on Tuesday passed an ordinance that would require locks on firearms stored within city limits.

The City Commission voted 5-0 to adopt the rule, which goes into effect immediately.

Sponsored by Commissioners Mary Scott Russell and David Bethel and authored by City Attorney Earl Gallop, the new law aims to stop shootings that happen when children find unlocked guns in their homes -- or the homes of others.

It would apply to any of the city's 10,500 residents who own guns, but would not apply to police officers or other law enforcement officials who must carry weapons as part of their jobs.

Gun safety for children has been a major issue in Miami-Dade County, where several children have been killed or wounded in recent months in gun accidents at home or during crimes. Mayor Alex Penelas said the county would give preference to firearms made by Smith & Wesson after that gun maker said it would install locks on all its guns. That stance, which several municipalities have taken, drew a lawsuit from other gun makers.

Penelas applauded the ordinance Tuesday night.

``I commend them for their courageous stand,'' he said. ``Guns are killing our children in this country.''

The ordinance does have some other exceptions. It would not apply if the gun owner is nearby or in a place where he or she can prevent children from using it.

A homeowner, for example, could remove the gun lock before he goes to bed and place the unlocked gun in his nightstand drawer for protection.

However, if the gun is left in the drawer, unsecured, while the owner is away and there are children around, the gun owner would be charged a $250 fine on first offense and a $500 fine after that.

``If they have kids around, they have to put the trigger lock back on before they go to work,'' Gallop said. ``We're dealing with storage in a way that doesn't impede with the ability of anybody to own or have a firearm in the house.''

South Miami Mayor Julio Robaina said the city wanted to establish a model that could be followed by other cities.

``We're taking a stand, but I don't think we supersede state law,'' Robaina said. ``What we're trying to do is support the safety gun lock issue, but we went one step further.''

Only one resident spoke against the ordinance. David Tucker, 81, called the rule ``the first step of aggression'' toward the right to bear arms. He also challenged police to enforce the new law.

``How will you find out if I didn't put your divine lock on my weapon?'' he asked.

Police officials said they would not ``bang on doors'' to ensure residents complied with the ordinance, but would instead focus on raising awareness that gun locks are needed in the city.

On the issue of municipal vs. state authority, the ordinance cites the Joe Carlucci Uniform Firearms Act, which was passed in 1987 and was considered to make gun laws a state matter.

The act gives the state authority over ``the whole field of regulation of firearms . . . including the purchase, sale, transfer, taxation, manufacture, ownership, possession, and transportation [of weapons] to the exclusion of all existing and future . . . municipal ordinances and regulations relating thereto.''

``But it was noticeably silent about storage of weapons,'' Gallop said. ``It was really aiming at prohibiting local government from interfering with the rights of people to bear arms.''

The city is planning to host a gun-lock giveaway day in cooperation with businesses that sell gun locks, to get the word out to residents. The city also plans to accept guns that owners no longer use.

Robaina said other gun control strategies are under consideration.

``What we may do, for instance, is reward the gun companies that are throwing [the locks] in -- maybe we should only buy guns from those manufacturers that offer the locks. If all cities did that, then that may send a message. It could save the lives of hundreds and hundreds of kids.''

Herald staff writer Karl Ross contributed to this report
 
It would have been helpful if they would have quoted the ordinance ...

Don't you just love Gallop? "The act gives the state authority over ``the whole field of regulation of firearms . . . including the purchase, sale, transfer, taxation, manufacture, ownership, possession, and transportation [of weapons] to the exclusion of all existing and future . . . municipal ordinances and regulations relating thereto.''

``But it was noticeably silent about storage of weapons,'' Gallop said. ``It was really aiming at prohibiting local government from interfering with the rights of people to bear arms.''"

I doubt he is this dense. The FL state law also says nothing about regulating use of firearms around your pool, but geez.

Hopefully, a future court will explain to Mr. Gallop that his municipality has missed the mark with this ordinance, and it clearly conflicts with their preemption statute.

More 'feel good' legislation.

One thing I always wonder about these ordinances ... do they also contemplate the use of mini-vaults, gun safes and other alternative forms of securing firearms. Or, are these people like drones, and slavishly devoted to trigger locks?

Regards from AZ
 
Jeff, to answer your question, they are all drones. If they ever had an independant tought, they would not pass ordanances like this. :mad:
 
I wonder if that law causes more people to carry their handgun. I know it would make me carry mine more if the alternative was to keep a trigger lock on it.

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But this is "reasonable, common sense" legislation. After all, even here on TFL we've been told if you don't lock up your guns "You are part of the problem!"

(One small step for a man, one large step for tyranny.)

Actually, all they're doing is *enforcing* the Fourth Amendment, right? You know, being "secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects..."?

(Leave out that pesky part about unreasonable searches and seizures. Ref the "Don't die" thread....)
 
I look forward to the first suit against the city by the survivors of someone who was murdered because they couldn't get their gun unlocked in time.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>...would not apply to police officers or other law enforcement officials...[/quote]

Ah, I see now. "Janet Reno's MP-5 Party Posse" have "safe" guns, but we mere citizens are a scurrilous and untrustworthy lot.

Please see my topic in the General Discussion Forum, "We need to protect our children from guns", for more on "...when children find unlocked guns".

[This message has been edited by RepublicThunderbolt (edited June 10, 2000).]
 
So what happens to the single person that has no chillern around and leaves his/her handgun un-locked when they leave their abode? If the home is broken into and the gun stolen, are they liable? If there is a fire and the F/D find unlocked remains of firearms are they liable? If we were to drop cabbages into the skulls of the commissioners, would we increase the total IQ to a positive number?

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The city of Miami is only concerned about looking good. It is the "at least we tried, at least we did something."

If they were truely interested in saving lives they would have mandated firearm safety for every child in the city. They would have the police and law enforcement agencies teach firearm safety. If they were truely interested in saving the lives of children they would have outlawed swimming pools. They would have prohibited biking. Why is it they don't require one's automobile keys to be locked up? Don't motor vehicles cause more deaths than firearms? Common sense aint' common.
 
After all I've heard about these savior-like trigger locks I got to thinking, what is a trigger lock? Normally, what pops into my head is a bulky red or black deal with either a combonation or a key lock that goes over the trigger in an attempt (however futile) to prevent the gun from firing.

None of these "trigger locks" I've seen will stop the gun being loaded and cocked. You'll notice a little sticker on any trigger lock you find that says "DO NOT USE ON A LOADED GUN!" because, of course, the trigger lock has a bar that passes over the trigger and can shift, thereby depressing the trigger and becoming a "trigger activator". That means the trigger lock can become a severe, life threatening danger. I have seen what is called a "life jacket" for semi-auto handguns that fits over the whole slide and trigger mechanism but that isn't a trigger lock.

Regardless, I believe a good definition of a "trigger lock" is:

trigger lock (trig-er lok) (noun): Any device or devices designed and sold as a mechanism to prevent the trigger on any firearm from activating the weapon.

So, I ask you, how many of you have safeties on your guns?
 
EricM, We know the reason for exempting the military and police, don't we?

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"Gun Control is Only to Protect Those in Power"
 
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