gun control actually works...

Sig_Dude

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I learned something recently that has REALLY improved my shooting. I know it is going to sound like simple common sense, and it is really, but...

I started choking up on my revolvers, sliding my hand up the grip until the hammer is actually underneath it. I've moved my grip up by maybe 3/4". (the hammer does not hurt my hand and it doesn't affect its kinetic energy when it hits home on the firing pin.)

What this does is not only give you more control over the pistol (think holding a bat choked-up versus down by the knob) but it also decreases the "recoil moment arm". You will find that there is a LOT less muzzle flip and that you are back on target in a LOT less time. At first it feels un-natural, but soon the old way feels just dumb.

One word of caution though, if you a bad elbow or even shoulder this not may be for you as there is going to be a greater impulse sent down the center axis of your trigger arm. Also, if you are shooting a serious magnum load you may want to first shoot the traditional way and then work up to this.

For .38 and .357 and anything below, it's awesome.
 
Totally agree! I tried the same technique with my 44 mag and love what it's done for my groups. My elbow and shoulder must be okay.......I didn't notice anything different.

Anyway, I give a thumbs up to your thread. :D
 
Yeah it is pretty simple but ive been shooting handguns for around 6 years and just last years started finding out little thing like that to shrink my groups. I bet ive tried 100 different grips and stances to find out how I can shoot the best groups but most of the time I try to work on shooting one handed or off hand, body twisted, sitting down both and one handed, laying on my side, out of both truck doors(wear ear plugs). I alwys now try to get the highest grip posible on a handgun especialy autos.
 
i tried it with my sp101... am i doing it wrong? the only way i could get a sight picture was to really jack my arm up.

can you post a pic on a similar weapon?
 
I started choking up on my revolvers, sliding my hand up the grip until the hammer is actually underneath it.

???

Until the hammer is actually underneath ... what, your hand? I'm having trouble picturing what your saying here .... :confused:
 
Yep, getting the center line of the barrel down as close as you can to align with the bones in your forearm gives a much more solid / steady hold. It also pushes the pistol straight back into your shoulder rather then flipping it upwards. That’s why you see such a low bore line on European style semi auto target pistols. At first they look a little strange, but once you know why it’s done, it all makes sense.
 
NightSleeper, It's the web of your hand between the thumb and trigger finger that he's talking about.

I do it with my 460V and yeah you can notice a difference.
 
I did note in my original post that caution must be used with magnum loads.

But yea, *wink wink*, try that with full house .44 mag loads in the lightest gun you can get your hands on, *wink wink* :)
 
Of course you'll shoot better. By raising your hands you're lowering the bore axis when you shoot. The lower the bore axis the better. Besides the fixed barrel, it partially explains why the HK P7 is such an accurate pistol.
 
Speaking of the HK P7, are these still made on a limited basis? I've been wanting one for a long time, and you just reminded me about the low bore axis of that gun. Me want!
 
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