Gun Ban Back?

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welll... it's not like we didn't know it would be coming back up.

"ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN -- (Senate - March 02, 2005)

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Mr. LEVIN. Mr. President, I am pleased to join Senator Feinstein as a cosponsor of her legislation to reauthorize the assault weapons ban. I voted for the original 1994 assault weapons ban and for the amendment to reauthorize the ban in the 108th Congress.

When the 1994 assault weapons ban expired on September 13, 2004, criminals and terrorists gained potential easy access to 19 of the highest powered and most lethal firearms produced. In addition to banning 19 specific weapons , the assault weapons ban also prohibited the sale of semiautomatic weapons that incorporated a detachable magazine and two or more specific military features. These features included folding/telescoping stocks, protruding pistol grips, bayonet mounts, threaded muzzles or flash suppressors, barrel shrouds, or grenade launchers. Common sense tells us that there is no reason for civilians to have easy access to guns with these military style features.

During the 108th Congress, I joined with the majority of my Senate colleagues in adopting an amendment to reauthorize the assault weapons ban for another 10 years. However, the bill to which it was attached was later derailed. Despite the overwhelming support of the law enforcement community, the ongoing threat of terrorism, bipartisan support in the Senate, and the pleas of Americans who have already lost loved ones to assault weapons tragedies, the ban was allowed to expire, as the President and the Republican Congressional leadership were unwilling to act.

Despite the National Rifle Association's assertions that the ban is ineffective, unnecessary, and that guns labeled as assault weapons are rarely used in violent crimes, the need for the assault weapons ban is clear. Just last week, AK-47 assault rifles, like the ones included in the original assault weapons ban, were reportedly used in two separate shootings in Texas and California that left four people dead and four others seriously injured, three of whom were police officers. In Tyler, TX, a gunman armed with an AK-47, wearing a military flak jacket and a bulletproof vest, opened fire outside a courthouse, killing his ex-wife and wounding his son. In the ensuing shootout with police, the gunman was reportedly able to fire as many as 50 rounds at police and innocent bystanders before fleeing in his truck. He was finally shot in another gun battle with police a few miles away. The same day in Los Angeles, a man reportedly armed with an AK-47 walked into his workplace and shot two of his coworkers to death following a dispute. He later turned himself in at a Los Angeles police station.

Unfortunately, assault weapons such as the ones reportedly used in these two shootings as well as many other similar assault weapons are once again being legally produced and sold as a result of the expiration of the assault weapons ban. I again urge my colleagues to act to help prevent tragedies like these by enacting a common sense ban on assault weapons .
 
What these jerks don’t realize is that these weapons were around before the ban started and was even around during the ban.
In order for that band to work was to make it illegal to own a high capacity magazine or a gun with them features and that was not the case.
I doubt that the weapons was used in the crime was a new release weapon and one that was around.
I am not one who would not turn my gun or hi capacity magazine in, I would fight anyone that tried to take my guns or magazine away from me.
All the gun manufactures have made and release hi capacity magazines and bushmaster can’t make a gun fast enough and is backed up. With the millions of new hi capacity magazine on the market you will all ways be able to get them along with the weapons with military option. What would happen is it would go back to the way it was.
I just got a bushmaster 223 with flash suppressors telescoping and eotech scope.

To tell you the truth this is a feel good law and in all honesty I feel we will never be able to stop the government from taking control or what we law abiding citizens can and can’t own no matter how hard we try.

i don't think this will ever pass with bush in office.
 
I consider crimes like these as government "fundraisers". they always seem to happen when there is a piece of legislation lying around.

The solution to controlling the masses....

Create a problem.
Create opposition to the problem.
Offer a solution that sounds logical, but may or may not fix the problem, but furthers your own objectives.


we see it all the time...

Let criminals out of jail as fast as thy go in,
create fear by publisizing the higher crime rate and a few of the more heinous crimes.
Suggest that more police are the answer, who in part tell us that we should let them defend us and that we should not defend ourselves, strengthening the overt power of our government.


Look at the tons of legislation that has been piled upon us by some relatively small events, Patrick Purdy, JFK's assassination, etc. The death of just a few people caused a reactionary effect, causing us to change the way we think, and changing the way we had felt about firearms for hundreds of years.


Let's all just give up what freedom we have for security and live in little rubber rooms and eat what the government feeds us. Sure we could have sex with whoever/whatever we want, that sort of thing placates us, and thanks to abortion and such, we can be free of any responsibility that comes our way.
 
Did the rediculous Assault Weapon Ban keep John Muhammad from using a Bushmaster to kill people? The fact is murderers will use any gun they can get their hands on, wether it's a so-called assault rifle or a single shot like NEF Rifles.
Responsible ownership will help keep guns out of crimes. I'm talking about atleast good lockable steel cabinets and trigger locks if you can't afford a safe. Teaching children how to properly handle guns. The list of possibilities goes on.
 
Unfortunately, everyone knows that when they say Terrorism, if it means reducing the risk of terrorism, suckers fall into line with them. I have my Bushmaster that I bought during the weapons ban with the muzzle break and fixed stock...

Not the least bit more or less attainable by a criminal or terrorist... and not the least bit deadlier than weapons with 'evil goodies'. I'm with you, the day the government comes for my guns or magazines, I will die.

I suppose now the Tyler incident will make it impossible for flak jackets to be bought.. terrorists might get them... please...

It's the good old stereotypical dumbas* American intellect... "guns are bad, police good"... but my bullet arrives faster than Deputy Dog.

I even went as far as to buy 2500 magazines from Bushmaster after the ban sunset.. I've yet to fill them all though.
 
Thank God! They are no longer the majority! The 109th congress elected in 94 would have killed it before it ever got to Feinstein and Co! ;)
 
What on Earth do you need 2500 magazines for???

Planning on selling them if they get banned or something?
 
you better beleive that's my stockpile for the next ban... I purchased them wholesale for 7.43 a peice... I can sell them for $20 and make a mint.
 
I love how there is zero mention of the CCW holder killed in Tyler trying to stop the gunman. Whether it's an AK-47 or a flint lock pistol or any non-firearm, if someone wants to kill another person they will. Deal with the people, not the inanimate object.
 
This is just one of many reasons I dispise the left, the truth be damned. These people have lied about the gun issue for years and are the biggest hypocrites going, look at MiKhail Moore, his bodyguard just got into trouble carrying a gun illegally. Have to love it when a jerk like Byrd can call Republicans Nazis and Ward Churchill is praised for his bravery, if that were a Republican calling them nazis the media and the left would demand the persons removal from the senate. Look at what the media and left did to gingrich and Lott, but it seems when the left says something iots either freedom of speech or they are passionate about thier feelings, when a Republican says something its pure hate speech. These people will never stop trying to ban guns and unfortunately they have the main steam media and the Rosie O"Donnell types to vent thier propaganda. The true facts are Liberal judges give violent criminals light sententces, and many are paroled only to propagate violent acts again against sociaty. Criminals use guns as a tool of convenience, the left hasnt figured out or wont admit its not the gun that makes the criminal.
 
the democrat bashing is funny. bush himself is on the record as supporting the ban, he just wasnt going to sign to renew so he wouldnt lose all of those votes. its going to come back eventually, no matter what party is in the white house. might be time to go buy a few extra hi-caps.
 
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