Group Pressure Bush Electors

Dennis

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(Just when you thought it was safe to watch the news again....)
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Friday, December 15, 2000
ELECTION 2000

Group tries to dissuade Bush electors
Claims thousands of e-mails sent to urge defection to Gore
by Jon E. Dougherty

Despite Vice President Al Gore's concession to Republican George W. Bush
following a final legal defeat at the hands of the U.S. Supreme Court earlier
this week, at least one group says it is attempting to influence certified
Republican electors to vote against Bush in the Electoral College on Dec. 18.

Citizens for True Democracy, profiled in a WorldNetDaily report
Tuesday as an activist group that believes the popular vote should determine
the U.S. presidency, is encouraging "grass-roots" supporters to pressure at
least three Bush electors into changing their vote to Gore.

"Conscientious electors are America's only chance to stop an unfair and
anti-democratic institution from overruling the will of the American people,"
said the group's director, David Enrich, on the group's website. "The
www.VoteWithAmerica.com campaign has picked up steam while Gore's
legal efforts have gone up in smoke."

VoteWithAmerica.com states it is the "centerpiece of the CDT campaign."

"Most Americans believe that the popular vote, not the electoral vote, should
determine the presidency," said Enrich, referring to the Electoral College,
which is constitutionally mandated to select presidents.
"VoteWithAmerica.com empowers concerned citizens to make their voices
heard."

CDT said it is especially encouraging site visitors to "contact four [Bush]
electors whose public statements indicate that they may be considering
voting for Al Gore."

At the site, CDT offers "tools that allow visitors to easily e-mail, call, and
write to the electors."

The campaign targets presidential electors that can legally switch their votes.
Twenty-six states do not require presidential electors to cast ballots for
pledged candidates.


Because of its "grass-roots" efforts, CDT claims Republican "electors have
reported receiving thousands of e-mails and dozens of calls each day from
VoteWithAmerica.com users."

"With the click of a mouse, voters have been sending e-mail to 54 Republican
electors simultaneously, asking them to switch their votes. The Web site also
encourages site visitors to place free long-distance phone calls to targeted
electors. Many concerned citizens are calling up to 130 electors using
VoteWithAmerica.com," says CDT's site.

Also, the group claims "many visitors" are downloading the site's printable
address labels for the 172 GOP electors the group has identified that could
legally change their vote.

"Hundreds of Americans are expected to send letters to every Republican
elector, warning them about the serious legitimacy crisis that American
government will face if the Electoral College subverts the popular vote," said
the website.

Gore won the national popular vote by a little more than 300,000 votes, and
the group claims that although "Gore has distanced himself from CTD's
efforts, his campaign acknowledges that he will accept victory if electors
defect."

With Florida's victory, Bush won 271 electoral votes compared to Gore's 267.
Only 270 are needed to win the White House.

"We are not Democrats, and we did not vote for Al Gore," Enrich said.
"VoteWithAmerica.com is based on the simple principle that the candidate
that wins the most votes nationally should be the next president. The
electors should put patriotism above partisanship."

Citizens for True Democracy said it was prepared to post the contact
information for Democratic electors had Bush won the popular vote but lost
the electoral vote. The group also claimed that newspaper reports said that
"Bush's campaign, too, intended to 'fight' an Electoral College defeat by
'pressuring' Democratic electors and launching a media campaign."

The Bush camp has refuted that charge.

Analysts say that, theoretically, CDT's grass-roots campaign could be
successful but that it is highly unlikely because electors -- even in states that
allow changing of votes -- make pledges to candidates vowing to cast ballots
for them in the Electoral College.

Also, they point out that while electors have switched in the past, the
incidence is rare and there are no real indications Bush electors are preparing
to sabotage the president-elect.

Still, CDT pointed out that a switch by three electors would give Gore a
win. If two switched, the "defections would send the election to the House of
Representatives."
The group is unclear about whether they would accept
a congressional Bush mandate -- a likelihood, considering the GOP's
congressional majority.
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That works both ways, why not send emails to pressure to Gore electors to vote for Bush "in the name of unity"?
 
Any Republican elector that switches his vote to Gore better have his suitcase packed, a one way ticket to a far off land and full length body armor.
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If, God forbid, three of Bush's electors were swayed (or blackmailed, coerced, or threatened), wouldn't it be an interesting test of Algore's character? He has already conceded the election and is on record as saying that he does not want W's electors nor does he condone attempts to influence them. This is a scenario I don't care to see take place. Let's all hope that everything goes as planned.


Sub
 
I find it interesting that CDT uses faithless electors as one of the main reasons why the Electoral College should be abandoned -- but here they are, actively encouraging faithlessness.

LawDog
 
I have heard there are states that have not counted their absentee ballots due to the number of them being insufficient to swing the states chosen electoral choice. There could be enough votes for Bush amongst those votes to narrow or turn over the slim popular majority Gore has. If the above is accurate then Gore's slim majority is meaningless.

Ric
 
hehe, annoying telemarketer tactics?

Does anyone really buy anything from telemarketers or spam e-mail? I can't speak for the electors, but if it were me, every time I opened my mail and saw that crap,it would strengthen my resolve to NOT vote for Gore.

Still those votes from Or and NM that were so close look mighty attractive about now.

Honestly, I believe the media has been jumping for joy over this whole thing, and just flat out refuse to drop it. It's not that often they get 2 NFL playoff scenerios in a year to boost ratings. I gotta believe that most of this is generated by them(media) to keep the ball rolling. *sigh* They learned sooo well from the OJ trial. I think they had visions of the return of TV screens at gas pumps ala OJ. hehe, even had a sort of low speed chase with the Ryder truck.
 
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Saturday, December 16, 2000
ELECTION 2000
'We'll stand firm,' say GOP electors
Targeted Republicans weathering attempts to persuade them to switch parties
Monday

by Julie Foster

Despite the all-out efforts of Electoral College critics and Democrat activists,
Republican members of the constitutionally established body are circling the wagons
around their party's soon-to-be official president-elect.

Even electors suspected of breaking ranks with their party have publicly declared
their loyalty to President-elect George W. Bush, saying no amount of pressure by
popular-vote proponents will change their minds.

And there has been a lot of pressure put on Republican electors. Matt Grossmann,
deputy director of VoteWithAmerica.com -- an effort to urge Bush electors to vote
for Vice President Al Gore -- said his webpage listing contact information for
Republican electors had been visited 30,000 times between midnight Thursday and
2 p.m. yesterday. And while that number could encompass multiple visits by one
person, it shows that elector-swaying is a popular activity of late.

Likewise, an official at the Maricopa County sheriff's office in Arizona said yesterday
that Sheriff Joe Arpaio had received around 100 calls since 8 a.m. that day. Arpaio
is one of four electors heavily lobbied by Electoral College critics. He had previously
made public statements indicating he might change his mind and vote for Gore.

"I suppose some people could be concerned because I am a little controversial and
independent," Arpaio told the Philadelphia Inquirer last month. The same Sheriff
Arpaio of "pink underwear and green bologna" fame, the elector noted that he
"broke ranks" with fellow Arizona Republicans and endorsed Bush instead of favorite
son John McCain in the GOP primary. Arpaio reminded the Inquirer that Arizona's
electors are not bound by law to support a fellow party member in the presidential
vote.

Noting Gore's popular-vote lead, the sheriff added, "Maybe we ought to consider
him." But Arpaio has since changed his tune and is now singing strongly in the
pro-Bush choir.

"Bush came here and asked me for an endorsement, and I gave it to him. So, why
would I break from Bush? So come Monday, I will cast my vote for George W., come
Monday at 2 o'clock, Phoenix time," Arpaio told CNSNews.com.

Another of the four targeted electors is Virginian Frances Sadler, whose answering
machine plays this recording: "If you are calling about the Electoral College, I am
casting my vote for George W. Bush. If you are calling to change my mind, you are
wasting your time."

In a WorldNetDaily interview Tuesday, Oklahoma elector Steve Byas said members
of the Republican Party "don't just nominate anybody to be an elector candidate,
because you don't want 'faithless' electors." Oklahoma lists electors by name on the
ballot -- as opposed to other states that simply list each party's presidential
nominee. Faithless electors in Oklahoma could be slapped with a $1,000 fine,
though history records no faithless elector ever having been punished.

About half of the nation's states allow electors to break party ranks without penalty,
though such a phenomenon has only happened seven times in the 20th century.

In his earlier remarks on the Florida Supreme Court's decision to extend the state's
election deadline, Gore distanced himself from attempts to sway electoral votes,
saying: "I completely disavow any effort to persuade electors to switch their
support from the candidate to whom they are pledged. I will not accept the support
of any elector pledged to Governor Bush."

Nevertheless, Democrat political strategist Bob Beckel has said he would
"respectfully" ignore the vice president's request and continue to try to sway
electors.

"I'm trying to kidnap electors in states that he won that are not legally bound to
him that have a right to vote how they want to," he told Fox News' Brit Hume. "And
I want to put in front of them the facts about why Bush will be the first modern
president not elected to the office."


However, two of Beckel's top staffers, Ben Chao and Bud Jackson, have now
resigned from Bob Beckel & Associates over their boss's attempts to influence
Republican electors, United Press International reported yesterday.

"Beckel is compiling a report he will send, or may have already sent, to Republican
electors on voting patterns, allegations of fraud in the election" and other political
and demographic information about the 2000 election, said UPI.

The letter, Chao noted, will include "an editorial comment from him reminding the
electors they have the option of abstaining from voting in the Electoral College."

"He is not doing background checks or opposition research on electors," Chao
insisted, adding that "the report he is going to send them is the only
communication he has had or will have with electors." This contradicts statements
made by Beckel himself in a Fox News Channel interview in which he told host Neil
Cavuto he had already talked to "over a hundred" friends in the various
Bush-majority states to enlist their help in persuading even two electors to switch
their votes.

After Gore campaign chairman Bill Daley and adviser Warren Christopher both
publicly disavowed Beckel's effort in the wake of a firestorm of publicity and
criticism, Beckel softened his rhetoric, claiming he intended merely to pass on
information to Bush electors.

"I urged [Beckel] not to send the report," Chao told UPI. "He told me 'Ben, this is
something I have to do.'"

Beckel did not respond to multiple e-mail and phone requests over several days
from WorldNetDaily asking for clarification of his position.

Depending on the nature of their contact with electors, Beckel and others working
to persuade electors to change their votes could be in violation of federal law if their
persuasion tactics enter the realm of "intimidation." U.S. Code Title 42, Section
1971 states: "No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall
intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other
person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or
to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to
vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential
elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives,
Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general,
special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or
electing any such candidate."

Commenting on another similar statute, Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said
determining whether an action is a violation of such federal laws "would be very
case-specific." A letter asking someone to reconsider their vote is "very different"
than a letter making threats, he said. "It's illegal to intimidate anyone," Fitton
added.

At least one group is actively encouraging Republican electors to stick with the
GOP's man. SupportOurElectors.com says efforts to influence Bush-pledged electors
are wrong.

"A majority of the members of the Electoral College have pledged their vote to Gov.
George W. Bush. Despite the fact that Gov. Bush overwhelmingly won the
state-by-state popular votes, Democratic activists have been attempting to
persuade certain electors to change their vote. This is wrong!" the group says.
"Voters in 30 states selected these electors with the belief that they would cast
their votes for Gov. Bush. Democratic activists have been bombarding these
electors with letters, faxes and e-mails, encouraging them to vote for Al Gore. If
only three Bush electors change their vote, Al Gore will become our next president.
We cannot allow this to happen!"

The group encourages visitors to sign a petition urging electors to vote for their
party's candidate. It states simply: "I support the 271 Republican members of the
Electoral College, and I urge them to honor their pledges and vote for Gov. George
W. Bush."

Come what may, electors of both parties meet in just two days at state capitols
across the nation to cast their votes for president and vice president of the United
States. Elected by popular vote in their respective states, they are politicians and
fund-raisers, homemakers and activists. And regardless of their political persuasion,
they were nominated by party members because of their loyalty, making crossover
votes unlikely.

While media outlets are able to report results of the Electoral College vote right
away since they are present at the time of the vote, the official tally will be taken
on Jan. 6, when, in his capacity as president of the Senate, the votes will officially
and ceremonially be read by -- Al Gore.

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