Amish Gangsta
Inactive
The following is a reference for anti-gun types to use when debating for gun control. Be warned..it'll make you sick!
#: 908764 S8/LIBERTY [OUTFORUM] 01-Jan-96 15:08:43 Sb: Know
Thine Enemy Fm: Brenda C. Jinkins 70762,154 To: All
This HCI guide was found on the Internet:
Forwarded:
------------------------------------------------------------
A Quick Guide to Arguing with the Gun Zealots
When you argue with the anti-gun control forces remember to
press these key issues: Strategic points to remember for
public speaking:
Today's criminals and gangbangers outgun our cops.
Our children are being threatened, murdered and cut down in
the street.
There is no sporting purpose for a semi-automatic firearm.
The 2nd Amendment does not protect the right to own military
or semi-automatic arms.
With tens of millions of people owning guns, the potential
for lawlessness and gun massacres increases ten fold each
year.
The current crime wave can touch any community, and social
strata.
Handguns have no purposes other than killing people.
Households with guns are 43 times more likely to have their
guns used against a family member than those households
without guns.
Self defense is no legitimate reason for owning a gun (see
Above Point).
The vast majority of crime guns are bought legally.
Most Gun dealers sell thousands of guns illegally to gangs
and criminals every day.
Repeat these facts over and over and eventually the public
will begin to see the light. They cannot casually dismiss
these devastating facts any more. They will be remembering
our arguments long after the echoes of the NRA's arguments
have vanished. Remember that they are defending the right to
murder in our country. This alone makes them look brutish and
Neanderthals. Offer our people another alternative. An
alternative to violence and machismo. It is becoming less and
less politically correct to own a gun. Ultimately society as
a whole will look upon gun owners with dread and disdain.
Other Pressing Points:
Military Assault Weapons: The confusion by the general public
between semi-automatic weapons can work in our favor.
Constantly dropping the words - submachine gun, fully
automatic, machine gun, military weapon, high tech killing
machine are good debater's tricks to instill a sense of dread
over these weapons. Ultimately people will learn to dread
these weapons just like chemical warfare weapons and toxic
waste dumps.
Semi-Automatic Weapons: Remember that there is no place for
any kind of semi-auto weapon in a safe society regardless of
how it looks, since many so called sport rifles can be
easily converted to a military configuration. Thus all
semi-automatic weapons are capable of being called assault
weapons . Never let up on this fact.
Endangerment of Children: It is difficult for the Gun groups
to counter arguments which call attention to the
endangerment of children. Making the opposition look callous
creates an image of brutality and indifference to the
audience. Keep this point in the fore front of any public
argument. Enough is enough: Americans are sick and tired of
the violence that is infecting our society. Press forth this
point and other points of a related nature. It is time for
action, to take back our streets from crime. If we don't take
action now, this crimewave will engulf America. Again be sure
to press the point that the Gun Lobby opposes action to
counter this crime wave.
Assault Weapons - the Choice of Criminals: Assault weapons
are the weapons of choice for gangs, mentally deficient
individuals, and criminals across the board. The Gun Lobby
argues that anyone at anytime should have the right to buy
and own these weapons of mass destruction.
Too Many Guns in the U.S.: There are over 200 million guns in
America today. One for every man, woman, and child in the
United States. Push the fact that each one of these killing
machines poses a grave threat to our population.
Assault Ammunition: The ammunition for military arms are more
powerful and more devastating than normal ammunition. This
type of ammo if not banned, should have the delivery systems
(aka assault weapons) banned at least.
Points of Victory in the past ten years: Defeating the NRA's
attempt to gut the ban on interstate handgun sales.
Defeating the NRA s protection of Cop Killer Bullets.
Defeating the NRA's protection of Plastic, Undetectable
handguns. Winning a ban on Saturday Night Specials in
Maryland. Winning bans on Assault Weapons in states and
cities throughout the U.S. Also remember to make good use of
HCI's prepared 10 and 20 minute sample speeches available in
the future. These speeches can be modified to fit a variety
of circumstances.
The Fraud of the Second Amendment and the Gun Lobby's Big
Lie: The following is our current flyer on the NRA's Fraud
concerning and meaning and interpretation of the Second
Amendment. Remember to read the arguments about the Second
Amendment and our fact sheets on Children & Guns, Firearms &
Youth Suicides, and our upcoming Fact Sheet on the Myth of
using a Gun in Self Defense. Be sure to familiarize yourself
with the S.T.A.R. program and push not only for its
implementation but also of new materials which will address
the Gun Lobby's Myth about the Second Amendment.
"A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of
a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,
shall not be infringed."
The Second Amendment: Fraud and Fact Four Basic Reasons Why
The Second Amendment Permits Gun Control
1. FRAUD:
The Second Amendment to the Constitution guarantees
each individual the unlimited right to own and use guns for hunting,
self-protection, target shooting or other individual pursuits.
1. FACT:
Although the gun lobby, led by the National Rifle Association,
literally spends millions of dollars each year promoting this false
claim, the truth is the federal courts have unanimously held that
the right to keep and bear arms is limited to participation in an
organized militia...that the Second Amendment does not guarantee
the right of individuals to own and to carry arms.
2. FRAUD:
Because the Second Amendment guarantees Americans
the right to bear arms, the government cannot forbid
Americans to own firearms, such as handguns, or even assault
weapons.
2. FACT:
No federal court in history has ever
overturned a gun control law on Second Amendment grounds. To
the contrary, the courts have held that this amendment does
not prohibit Congress from regulating the interstate sale of
weapons, nor does it prevent the states from regulating the
use and sale of firearms as they see fit.
3. FRAUD:
Because it contains the phrase, "the right of the
people to keep and bear arms," the Second Amendment obviously
meant to confer an individual right to own and use firearms.
3. FACT:
During colonial days, Americans held a great distrust
of standing armies and, in order to get the Constitution ratified, the
framers had to include a Bill of Rights provision to protect
state militias from federal encroachment. Thus "of the
people" refers to the right of the people to participate in
organized state militias, free from interference by the
federal government.
4. FRAUD:
A "well-regulated militia" refers to those persons who
live within the boundaries of any given state, and that's why each
citizen of a state retains a fundamental right to keep and bear arms .
4. FACT:
The term "well-regulated militia" has been consistently
viewed by the federal courts as the active, organized militia of each
state. Moreover, the U.S. Supreme Court has twice held that
the National Guard is the modern day equivalent of a state
militia. Of course, the National Guard does not use
privately owned firearms at all.
-----------------------------------------------------
Ok, that's it..it's over. If you want a copy of your own, it can be found here: http://www.netside.com/~lcoble/2ndamend/hci_args.txt
#: 908764 S8/LIBERTY [OUTFORUM] 01-Jan-96 15:08:43 Sb: Know
Thine Enemy Fm: Brenda C. Jinkins 70762,154 To: All
This HCI guide was found on the Internet:
Forwarded:
------------------------------------------------------------
A Quick Guide to Arguing with the Gun Zealots
When you argue with the anti-gun control forces remember to
press these key issues: Strategic points to remember for
public speaking:
Today's criminals and gangbangers outgun our cops.
Our children are being threatened, murdered and cut down in
the street.
There is no sporting purpose for a semi-automatic firearm.
The 2nd Amendment does not protect the right to own military
or semi-automatic arms.
With tens of millions of people owning guns, the potential
for lawlessness and gun massacres increases ten fold each
year.
The current crime wave can touch any community, and social
strata.
Handguns have no purposes other than killing people.
Households with guns are 43 times more likely to have their
guns used against a family member than those households
without guns.
Self defense is no legitimate reason for owning a gun (see
Above Point).
The vast majority of crime guns are bought legally.
Most Gun dealers sell thousands of guns illegally to gangs
and criminals every day.
Repeat these facts over and over and eventually the public
will begin to see the light. They cannot casually dismiss
these devastating facts any more. They will be remembering
our arguments long after the echoes of the NRA's arguments
have vanished. Remember that they are defending the right to
murder in our country. This alone makes them look brutish and
Neanderthals. Offer our people another alternative. An
alternative to violence and machismo. It is becoming less and
less politically correct to own a gun. Ultimately society as
a whole will look upon gun owners with dread and disdain.
Other Pressing Points:
Military Assault Weapons: The confusion by the general public
between semi-automatic weapons can work in our favor.
Constantly dropping the words - submachine gun, fully
automatic, machine gun, military weapon, high tech killing
machine are good debater's tricks to instill a sense of dread
over these weapons. Ultimately people will learn to dread
these weapons just like chemical warfare weapons and toxic
waste dumps.
Semi-Automatic Weapons: Remember that there is no place for
any kind of semi-auto weapon in a safe society regardless of
how it looks, since many so called sport rifles can be
easily converted to a military configuration. Thus all
semi-automatic weapons are capable of being called assault
weapons . Never let up on this fact.
Endangerment of Children: It is difficult for the Gun groups
to counter arguments which call attention to the
endangerment of children. Making the opposition look callous
creates an image of brutality and indifference to the
audience. Keep this point in the fore front of any public
argument. Enough is enough: Americans are sick and tired of
the violence that is infecting our society. Press forth this
point and other points of a related nature. It is time for
action, to take back our streets from crime. If we don't take
action now, this crimewave will engulf America. Again be sure
to press the point that the Gun Lobby opposes action to
counter this crime wave.
Assault Weapons - the Choice of Criminals: Assault weapons
are the weapons of choice for gangs, mentally deficient
individuals, and criminals across the board. The Gun Lobby
argues that anyone at anytime should have the right to buy
and own these weapons of mass destruction.
Too Many Guns in the U.S.: There are over 200 million guns in
America today. One for every man, woman, and child in the
United States. Push the fact that each one of these killing
machines poses a grave threat to our population.
Assault Ammunition: The ammunition for military arms are more
powerful and more devastating than normal ammunition. This
type of ammo if not banned, should have the delivery systems
(aka assault weapons) banned at least.
Points of Victory in the past ten years: Defeating the NRA's
attempt to gut the ban on interstate handgun sales.
Defeating the NRA s protection of Cop Killer Bullets.
Defeating the NRA's protection of Plastic, Undetectable
handguns. Winning a ban on Saturday Night Specials in
Maryland. Winning bans on Assault Weapons in states and
cities throughout the U.S. Also remember to make good use of
HCI's prepared 10 and 20 minute sample speeches available in
the future. These speeches can be modified to fit a variety
of circumstances.
The Fraud of the Second Amendment and the Gun Lobby's Big
Lie: The following is our current flyer on the NRA's Fraud
concerning and meaning and interpretation of the Second
Amendment. Remember to read the arguments about the Second
Amendment and our fact sheets on Children & Guns, Firearms &
Youth Suicides, and our upcoming Fact Sheet on the Myth of
using a Gun in Self Defense. Be sure to familiarize yourself
with the S.T.A.R. program and push not only for its
implementation but also of new materials which will address
the Gun Lobby's Myth about the Second Amendment.
"A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of
a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,
shall not be infringed."
The Second Amendment: Fraud and Fact Four Basic Reasons Why
The Second Amendment Permits Gun Control
1. FRAUD:
The Second Amendment to the Constitution guarantees
each individual the unlimited right to own and use guns for hunting,
self-protection, target shooting or other individual pursuits.
1. FACT:
Although the gun lobby, led by the National Rifle Association,
literally spends millions of dollars each year promoting this false
claim, the truth is the federal courts have unanimously held that
the right to keep and bear arms is limited to participation in an
organized militia...that the Second Amendment does not guarantee
the right of individuals to own and to carry arms.
2. FRAUD:
Because the Second Amendment guarantees Americans
the right to bear arms, the government cannot forbid
Americans to own firearms, such as handguns, or even assault
weapons.
2. FACT:
No federal court in history has ever
overturned a gun control law on Second Amendment grounds. To
the contrary, the courts have held that this amendment does
not prohibit Congress from regulating the interstate sale of
weapons, nor does it prevent the states from regulating the
use and sale of firearms as they see fit.
3. FRAUD:
Because it contains the phrase, "the right of the
people to keep and bear arms," the Second Amendment obviously
meant to confer an individual right to own and use firearms.
3. FACT:
During colonial days, Americans held a great distrust
of standing armies and, in order to get the Constitution ratified, the
framers had to include a Bill of Rights provision to protect
state militias from federal encroachment. Thus "of the
people" refers to the right of the people to participate in
organized state militias, free from interference by the
federal government.
4. FRAUD:
A "well-regulated militia" refers to those persons who
live within the boundaries of any given state, and that's why each
citizen of a state retains a fundamental right to keep and bear arms .
4. FACT:
The term "well-regulated militia" has been consistently
viewed by the federal courts as the active, organized militia of each
state. Moreover, the U.S. Supreme Court has twice held that
the National Guard is the modern day equivalent of a state
militia. Of course, the National Guard does not use
privately owned firearms at all.
-----------------------------------------------------
Ok, that's it..it's over. If you want a copy of your own, it can be found here: http://www.netside.com/~lcoble/2ndamend/hci_args.txt