Government developing a ray machine to see through clothes to find guns

If the gov't would like to save a few bucks I'd be willing to sell them my old X-Ray glasses that I bought as a kid out of some comic book. ;)
 
If Slick Willy has anything to do with this program, I don't think it's guns he'll be looking at! Bazookas maybe? ;) (o)(o)


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RKBA!

"The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security"
Ohio Constitution, Article I, Section 4
Concealed Carry is illegal in Ohio.
Ohioans for Concealed Carry Website
 
This has been out there for a long time.
Some law journals have commented on this
and the 4th Amend. One TX journal had
an article titled something like:
Superman's X-ray vision and the 4th.

The nuances are that:
1. At airports, you agree to the search
or no flying for you
2. But, is it legal and constitutional to
scan a crowd with the gadgets? Probable
cause?
3. Some of these systems actually give you
a pretty good naked picture of the subject
along with the gun or knife. So to
catch the crook, you get to see everyone
else naked. This would not go over well
with airport security and cops on
patrol aiming the "Nude-o-tron" at
whom they feel like.
 
Hmmm...

Wonder if I could sue for sexual harassment? :)

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 
DC: No, cause you're only a peasant and got no rights...now get back in line and keep your hands above your head!

However, people working those would be able to sue people they watch for sexual harrassment if 1)they see something they don't like (Rush Limbaugh or Janet Reno?) 2)they claim they see something they don't like
 
Hmmm... wonder if this machine will see tats?

(ring)
"Snake's."

"Hey, Snake. Fitz. Got some new custom work for ya."

"Oh yeah? Whatzit?"

"Can you do 'KISS THIS' on my arsecheeks?"

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"The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it."
-- John Hay, 1872
 
Oleg...

Whew! At least ya didn't say you were there to help me and now face the ditch :)

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 
If we focused it on Clinton's crotch I think it would confirm what we already know--he has no stones, and he never has had any.
DAL


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Reading "Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal," by Ayn Rand, should be required of every politician and in every high school.
 
And if we focused on Hillary's, we'd see where they went...

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa...

[This message has been edited by Ulfilas (edited December 28, 1999).]
 
Wouldn't mind having a civilian version of the Nude-O-Tron myself. :) Actually, the ACLU is actually on our side on this one, and the controversy has been brewing for some time. The technology is already there; it's just getting better/cheaper/smaller all the time. The legal issue is, as pointed out, whether this constitutes a "search" under the 4th Am (in my mind, of course it does), and next, whether the search is "unreasonable". With the present composition of the high Court, they've been letting the gov't win almost all search & seizure case since the early 90s, when the war on drugs kicked into high gear (rat bastards - even my hero Clarence is on this bandwagon), so I suspect they'd say "sure it's reasonable to use such a machine at any time, any place by law enforcement [the unwritten part would be "given the crazies, war on drugs, blah, blah, blah"], which of course it totally wrong, but that's what I'd predict with the present court. Actually, that doesn't really factor in Ginsberg and Breyer - I dunno - maybe good result instead with the weight of these "liberals" - perhaps they'd devise a test of whether there's a "high risk of security compromise..." blah, blah.

[This message has been edited by Futo Inu (edited December 29, 1999).]
 
DC - "now face the ditch." That's a good one. At least we know that will never happen here. Now, again, get back in line and wait your turn for the "shower".
 
The nudity angle is a wild card. Women's rights group may protest the invasion
of privacy and what will probably turn out
to be the sexist use of the gadget by some
LEOs (sorry guys). You might have submit
to a pat down. But a naked picture of you -
no way.

Also, while you may submit to such a search
for entrance into the plane, LEOs want to
scan crowds with them when just driving
around. Guess who they will look at.

bye
 
The tabloids would have a field day.

The Inquirer pays $200 to airport security and bingo....any female celeb you want to see is nekkid on the cover. A brand new cottage industry.

And like Glenn said...you know damn well the male rentacops would be oogling all day long

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 
The new scanner that I recently saw on the news was just a low-power X-ray which had the subject stand in front of, sorta like one of the old fluoroscopes. You see an outline of the body and anything solid they might be hiding including gun, knife, packets of cocaine (in the intestine).

It was not like the microwave scanners which are hand-held.

Rick
 
They aim that gun at me I will be sure to bend over and touch toes. That will put an end to them [no pun in.] doing it to me again at least. They better have that new HDTV WIDESCREEN for my ass.

The guys got it easy, just buy a Duck armor threat level IIIA cup and have it "leaded".
 
Think we could start a fad for clothes with gun shaped foil cutouts sewn into the linings? As a "gangsta" fashion statement? (Better yet, sneak them in, and when the police start using this thing, there'll be a REAL ruckus when they demand body searches of random people who never even THOUGHT of owning a gun!)

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Sic semper tyranus!
 
I've read about it sometime ago in a law enforcement rag. It's suppose to be a thermal imager based and does not emit harmful rays. I wonder if an aluminum clipboard in your briefcase will defeat it?

Excuse me while I wrap myself in tinfoil.

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Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt
 
"Thermal imager."

Not the same thing. But it is out there and yet another "tool" of law enforcement. There are still more.

Rick
 
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