Good Turnout for the Rally tonight!!

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Christina Whittington

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Well, good rally tonight for the Collin County Gun Range. Great turnout. WFAA covered it on their 10pm news.
The whole thing is really rediculous. I could tell the few people there in support of the ordinance didn't like all the support they got from all of us. They kept saying stuff like, "we are the ones that have to live next to the range and listen to the gunshots from the range." Well, I personally will be out there to see exactly what kind of "noise" they are hearing.
And I guess now I can go to the city council and petition for the DFW Airport to be shut down. I think it makes too much noise and is dangerous in that an airplane can fall on me.
Now I know this sounds stupid which is my point exactly. You would say that the airport is a nessesity (spelling) and it would foolish to consider closing it down. Also it would be foolish to think that we should close it down because a plane would fall on me. Well, then it's foolish to think that the gun range is anything differant. There are a lot of people and law enforcement agencies that consider the Colling County Gun Range a nessesity (sp?). And everyone knows that DFW and the airlines that use the airport use extreme safty measure to insure that their plane won't come down on me. Therefore the gun range owners also take extreme measures to ensure that a stray bullet doesn't injure someone or property. Those residence really need to consider what they are doing. They talked about all these people that came from outside the city to give their support for the range. (One of them actually wrote down all the citys that we came from and listed them for the counsil) They don't really see the revenue this business brings to the city. They don't realize the number of people that will boycott the city by word of mouth due to this. They don't realize that not only are they hurting the gun rang owners, they are also hurting themselves and they need to weigh that against the "noise" that the gun range supposidly makes before they force such a stupid ordinance.
BTW, how many of you went to the rally that could? Just curious.
CW

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Amendment II (1791)
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
 
Hey, in my opinion, if the residents are honest about "not wanting to close the range down" then they need to help Phill out and either help him find a way to make eveyone happy or, take up a collection from all the people to help him with the costs of enclosing the range.
I also wish that the NRA would step in and give him financial support. I think that would send a strong messege. ;) ;) ;)
cw


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Amendment II (1791)
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
 
Oops... Guess I'll post this here, too. :D

I missed ya, Christina! What were you wearing?

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Steven Camp, Gopher, and Racegun (um, and Christina Whittington :)) were the TFLers that I knew of that were there. All of the supporters of the range packed the council chamber. We all wore red buttons which read "Save the Collin County Gun Range," so there was no mistaking who was a supporter and who was not.

Proponents of the ordinance, which would effectively put the range out of business, numbered approximately 15 (rough guess). 6 or 7 of them voiced their opinions in front of the council, while 20 or so of us voiced ours (again, a rough guess).

Those speaking out against the range were not really Anti-Self-Defense Extremists (ASDE). The biggest complaint about the range was the noise - especially the noise that law enforcement agencies make when training at night. Of course, they kept referring to the machine guns - guess it made it sound better, or something.

The first speaker was against the range, but she was the president of the Southeast McKinney Homeowners Association. Sorry, I don't wanna hear it - The range isn't anywhere near that area.

A few of them brought up the point that most of us weren't even McKinney residents, but I got to thinkin' - neither are they! Most of them live in the area North of the range in a small community called New Hope. Yeah, they have McKinney mailing addresses, but McKinney never annexed their area, so I don't wanna here the "Yer not a resident" argument if they want to get technical.

I honestly believe that most of us not being from the immediate area may have been a hinderance, but several speakers brought up excellent points in regards to city revenue generated by patrons of the range. In addition, several area residents testified that county-road and hay-field plinking declined after the range opened up, thus contributing to safer living environments in their areas.

Whenever one of them would ask if we'd like a gun range in our back yard, I couldn't help to think "Well, yeah." Maybe it's the gun nut in me. :D

Some of them mentioned that they came to McKinney for the "country living." Well, I hate to tell you this, but the days of country living in the McKinney area are long gone. Development - That's all the cities care about in this area. Home builders are building neighborhoods in the middle of the country and use the "country living" catch-phrase when they sell the homes, and the next thing you know, there's a 7-11 and a McDonalds down on the corner. They're building houses near feed-lots and meat rendoring plants and sell 'em in the Winter. When summertime rolls around, the winds shift, and things start stinking up in the neigborhood, they start crying for them to shut down these businesses.

Sorry. To me, the outskirts of McKinney is not country living anymore.

We really showed a force at the council meeting, but I honestly don't know if it'll do any good. The range's attorney, the son of an area district judge, brought up the possibility of long, drawn-out lawsuits if the ordinance is enacted - That might get their attention, but I really don't know at this point.

I can sympathize with those complaining of the noise, that is if the noise is as bad as they say. However, they should've thought of that and voiced their protest when the range was originally built.

Complaints of bullets zinging over houses are unfounded, as the complaints are originating from the North while the bullets are flying South. I know bullets ricochette, but not that daggum far.

I spoke with Mr. Camp about grandfathering the range, but he states that the range would have to have been built prior to 1979 to fall under that clause - This might explain why there is no grandfather clause.

The vote is scheduled for 18 July, so I suppose there's still time to influence some folks.

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¡Viva la RKBA!
Bulldawg: NRA, GOA, TSRA, Shiner Bock Connoisseur.
Bulldawg's Firearms Page
 
By the way, if they enclosed the range, I probably wouldn't shoot there anymore.

You know that sweet taste you have in the back of your throat after shooting in an indoor range? That's lead, and that's why I prefer outdoor ranges. Besides, how many trap and skeet ranges have you seen indoors?
 
Hello Bulldog,
I was the one in the back row wearing a hot pink shirt whith a plaid (sp?) pants. I held a sign that said "Save our gun range". Darthmaum and JediOomodo were their aswell. They held a sign that said "Tell Big Brother no more gun laws". Atleast I think that's what it said.
Reply back and let me know if you saw us.
BTW, WFAA covered the meeting. Go watch it on www.wfaa.com.
It's interesting.
Christina Whittington
PS Which one were you?


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Amendment II (1791)
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
 
Thanks for the updates. Are there any more hearings where our presence might have an impact? I haven't been able to make it yet, but would like to. It's just a short drive up from Plano.
 
I was the one wearing the Shiner Bock t-shirt with a Texas Rangers ball cap standing by the wall on the right hand side of the chamber.
 
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