-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Van Cleave <philip@virginiasystems.com>
To: va-alert@listbox.com <va-alert@listbox.com>
Date: Saturday, February 03, 2001 6:19 PM
Subject: VA-ALERT: *** YES!!!! Restaurant Ban out of Committee!!***
>It was an outstanding day in the Militia and Police committee today
>for gun owners and freedom lovers in general. All of the anti-gun
>bills died horrible, humiliating, bipartisan, deaths - trigger locks,
>Fairfax Gun Ban, ballistic fingerprinting, a ban on all guns in
>schools, you name it, it died!
>
>Meanwhile several pro-gun bills made it out of committee and one has
>been temporarily set aside.
>
>Thanks to your help, Lee Ware modified his restaurant ban repeal,
>taking out most of the bad language. The new bill does **not** ban
>consumption nor carry in dance halls or exotic dancing
>establishments. It does allow for a judge to rule a place a
>"nuisance" and then they **must** post signs at all entrances banning
>concealed carry. The bill passed out of committee with a large
>bipartisan majority!
>
>The bill is not perfect, and VCDL will be studying it carefully to
>decide on the best way to improve it. But this is a great starting
>point and for the first time we have got the restaurant ban repeal
>out of committee. We have a long way yet to go (House Floor,Senate
>Sub-committee, Senate Committee, Senate Floor, possible conference
>committee, and then the Governor) and we must all keep the pressure
>on the whole way. WE CANNOT LET UP FOR A MINUTE. However, the train
>has left the station and it seems to be moving our way!!
>
>BTW, you should have heard the Virginia Restaurant Association
>howling after the hearing! As usual they were telling the press
>about all the blood in the streets that would surely follow passage
>of this bill. However, the press was getting information from both
>sides. Hopefully they will give us a fair shake. We'll see...
>
>There were approximately 50 people representing gun owners and a
>handful from the other side. It was impressive when the committee
>asked the anti's to stand to support/not support a bill (5 people
>stand up), then they asked US to stand. A rumbling sound ensued as
>50 people from all walks of life stood in unison - men, women, young,
>old, black, white. The anti's were simply and completely
>overwhelmed. That is the kind of support it takes to get the job
>done. Thanks to all who took off their Saturday to stand and be
>heard. I am proud to be among you.
>
>**** Let's thank Delegate Ware for vastly improving his
>restaurant-ban repeal bill and for fighting for gun owners. Let
>there be no mistake, there were many who wanted him to drop this
>bill, but he did not. ****
>
>Delegate Abbitt's reciprocity bill was left on the table (it is not
>dead, but it is on life-support). Delegate McClure's omnibus gun
>bill was passed out of committee instead. Delegate McClure's bill
>contains a lot of provision to cleanup various problems with
>Virginia's gun laws. McClure's bill also has reciprocity language.
>At best the reciprocity language does not improve what Virginia has
>now and at worst it could make reciprocity even harder to establish
>as it appears to give the State Police too much discretion. Delegate
>Abbitt's bill is much better and VCDL will be pushing to revive
>Delegate Abbitt's bill.
>
>*** We should thank Delegate Abbitt for his unwavering support for
>gun owners with his reciprocity bill. He is nothing if not
>tenacious. We should also ask him to try and get his bill on to the
>floor. ***
>
>Finally, Delegate McClure's preemption bill also passed out of
>committee with one minor, insignificant change by the State Police.
>Alexandria tried desperately to put in language that would have
>destroyed the bill, but the committee refused to accept Alexandria's
>changes. The bill was passed out of committee in a form that VCDL
>supports and if passed in this form will greatly help get rid of
>local gun bans, such as the one in Alexandria's city buildings.
>
>*** We should thank Delegate McClure for his preemption bill. ***
>
>Finally, all pro-gun members of the committee should be thanked for
>their support of gun owners in the Commonwealth.
>
>Our work has really just begun and it may be a month before we know
>the final result, but today was a good day. Let's bask in the glow
>for a few minutes and get back into the fight.
>
>
>
>VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization dedicated to defending the civil rights of all Virginians. The membership considers the right to keep and bear arms an essential human right.
>
>VCDL web page: http://www.vcdl.org
>
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From: Philip Van Cleave <philip@virginiasystems.com>
To: va-alert@listbox.com <va-alert@listbox.com>
Date: Saturday, February 03, 2001 6:19 PM
Subject: VA-ALERT: *** YES!!!! Restaurant Ban out of Committee!!***
>It was an outstanding day in the Militia and Police committee today
>for gun owners and freedom lovers in general. All of the anti-gun
>bills died horrible, humiliating, bipartisan, deaths - trigger locks,
>Fairfax Gun Ban, ballistic fingerprinting, a ban on all guns in
>schools, you name it, it died!
>
>Meanwhile several pro-gun bills made it out of committee and one has
>been temporarily set aside.
>
>Thanks to your help, Lee Ware modified his restaurant ban repeal,
>taking out most of the bad language. The new bill does **not** ban
>consumption nor carry in dance halls or exotic dancing
>establishments. It does allow for a judge to rule a place a
>"nuisance" and then they **must** post signs at all entrances banning
>concealed carry. The bill passed out of committee with a large
>bipartisan majority!
>
>The bill is not perfect, and VCDL will be studying it carefully to
>decide on the best way to improve it. But this is a great starting
>point and for the first time we have got the restaurant ban repeal
>out of committee. We have a long way yet to go (House Floor,Senate
>Sub-committee, Senate Committee, Senate Floor, possible conference
>committee, and then the Governor) and we must all keep the pressure
>on the whole way. WE CANNOT LET UP FOR A MINUTE. However, the train
>has left the station and it seems to be moving our way!!
>
>BTW, you should have heard the Virginia Restaurant Association
>howling after the hearing! As usual they were telling the press
>about all the blood in the streets that would surely follow passage
>of this bill. However, the press was getting information from both
>sides. Hopefully they will give us a fair shake. We'll see...
>
>There were approximately 50 people representing gun owners and a
>handful from the other side. It was impressive when the committee
>asked the anti's to stand to support/not support a bill (5 people
>stand up), then they asked US to stand. A rumbling sound ensued as
>50 people from all walks of life stood in unison - men, women, young,
>old, black, white. The anti's were simply and completely
>overwhelmed. That is the kind of support it takes to get the job
>done. Thanks to all who took off their Saturday to stand and be
>heard. I am proud to be among you.
>
>**** Let's thank Delegate Ware for vastly improving his
>restaurant-ban repeal bill and for fighting for gun owners. Let
>there be no mistake, there were many who wanted him to drop this
>bill, but he did not. ****
>
>Delegate Abbitt's reciprocity bill was left on the table (it is not
>dead, but it is on life-support). Delegate McClure's omnibus gun
>bill was passed out of committee instead. Delegate McClure's bill
>contains a lot of provision to cleanup various problems with
>Virginia's gun laws. McClure's bill also has reciprocity language.
>At best the reciprocity language does not improve what Virginia has
>now and at worst it could make reciprocity even harder to establish
>as it appears to give the State Police too much discretion. Delegate
>Abbitt's bill is much better and VCDL will be pushing to revive
>Delegate Abbitt's bill.
>
>*** We should thank Delegate Abbitt for his unwavering support for
>gun owners with his reciprocity bill. He is nothing if not
>tenacious. We should also ask him to try and get his bill on to the
>floor. ***
>
>Finally, Delegate McClure's preemption bill also passed out of
>committee with one minor, insignificant change by the State Police.
>Alexandria tried desperately to put in language that would have
>destroyed the bill, but the committee refused to accept Alexandria's
>changes. The bill was passed out of committee in a form that VCDL
>supports and if passed in this form will greatly help get rid of
>local gun bans, such as the one in Alexandria's city buildings.
>
>*** We should thank Delegate McClure for his preemption bill. ***
>
>Finally, all pro-gun members of the committee should be thanked for
>their support of gun owners in the Commonwealth.
>
>Our work has really just begun and it may be a month before we know
>the final result, but today was a good day. Let's bask in the glow
>for a few minutes and get back into the fight.
>
>
>
>VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization dedicated to defending the civil rights of all Virginians. The membership considers the right to keep and bear arms an essential human right.
>
>VCDL web page: http://www.vcdl.org
>
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