Good idea?
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BadMedicine
Moderator
GOOD IDEA???? GOOD IDEA??? GOOD IDEA YOU ASK??? This is the best damn I dea I've heard in a whole long long while. I'm going to do this, and I'm going to have these stamps made, and I'm going to give them as presents at birthdays, christmas, graduations, and fricken weddings!!!!! This is an awesome idea, it will get the word out, and show that we are a mass # of people. If there are 80 million gun owners, we should be able to stamp every dang dollar we come across. I am going to the stamp shop in town to order mine TOMORROW!! PLEASE, EVERYONE DO THIS!!! It will be great 
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IF you're not willing to die for your rights/beliefs, don't try to take mine.
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IF you're not willing to die for your rights/beliefs, don't try to take mine.
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PreserveFreedom
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I need to visit the local office supply store after this weekend's gun show. I manage a financial institution. Wouldn't it be something if all of the money that passed through there got stamped?
BadMedicine
Moderator
Get as many made as possible, and sell them at the show, I bet they'd go like hot-cakes if you sold them fair!!
There as a movement a couple of months ago along these lines. They were using a SECOND AMENDMENT rubber stamp, and trying to stamp $2 bills. Get it? $2 bill - Second Amendment dollars? They were using green ink, by the way.
The problem with that scheme was that $2 bills are being systematically removed from circulation. $1 bills have a circulation live measured in just months because they are used so much, whereas fives, tens and twenties live on in circulation much longer. Do we go for a short-term campaign and stamp just $1 bills because they are seen more, or do we stamp everything?
The problem with that scheme was that $2 bills are being systematically removed from circulation. $1 bills have a circulation live measured in just months because they are used so much, whereas fives, tens and twenties live on in circulation much longer. Do we go for a short-term campaign and stamp just $1 bills because they are seen more, or do we stamp everything?
David Scott
New member
This reminds me of a campaign about 10 years ago, in which gays and lesbians were stamping their currency with "Gay Money" in pink to demonstrate their economic clout. I suppose if everybody tries this, you won't be able to see George Washington's face. It will be covered in rubber-stamped political messages.
By the way, the Gay Money camapaign died because nobody but gay people ever noticed the stamps.
By the way, the Gay Money camapaign died because nobody but gay people ever noticed the stamps.
Okay - I went to an Office Depot, where they make "instant" stamps ($13.99, self inking).
NRA
Dollar
Pretty much says it all. I also have "regular" $3.99 stamps ordered (real soon now...) that say "NRA DOLLAR" and "www.a-human-right.com" - two separate stamps. I like Oleg's site, and how it soft-sells the message.
I chose the "NRA Dollar" message because it gets the point across. We're the NRA, we're here, and we're your neighbors.
NRA
Dollar
Pretty much says it all. I also have "regular" $3.99 stamps ordered (real soon now...) that say "NRA DOLLAR" and "www.a-human-right.com" - two separate stamps. I like Oleg's site, and how it soft-sells the message.
I chose the "NRA Dollar" message because it gets the point across. We're the NRA, we're here, and we're your neighbors.
Here's the law on "defacement" of currency -
Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, Federal Reserve Bank, or Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued, shall be fined not more than $100 or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.
Defacement of currency in such a way that it is made unfit for circulation comes under the jurisdiction of the United States Secret Service. Their address is: United States Secret Service, 1800 G Street, N. W., Washington, DC 20223.
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Since we do not intend to render the currency unfit for circulation (in fact, we want more circulation), and a small stamp on the currency doesn't make it any less useful as currency, we should be covered.
Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, Federal Reserve Bank, or Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued, shall be fined not more than $100 or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.
Defacement of currency in such a way that it is made unfit for circulation comes under the jurisdiction of the United States Secret Service. Their address is: United States Secret Service, 1800 G Street, N. W., Washington, DC 20223.
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Since we do not intend to render the currency unfit for circulation (in fact, we want more circulation), and a small stamp on the currency doesn't make it any less useful as currency, we should be covered.
hksigwalther
New member
'GUNS FOR FREEDOM'?
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Fast Eagle
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Hey Liberal gun grabbing commies!
YOU!
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AmericanFreeBird
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It IS a great idea, got mine coming in in 18tp Arial Blue, self inking. $23.95 delivered. Says GUN OWNER$.
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... But as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
BadMedicine
Moderator
Fast Eagle, oh man that's funny as h*ll. Could you post the lint to that smiley? That's definatly a keeper
"NRA DOLLAR" sounds good. But the NRA may be fined for something like that, I dunno. Some of the more radical anti's will soon be stamping theres:
"Gun totin', baby killin', skin-head, natzi, sonofabitches' blood money"
hehe, oh well. Ya can't please 'em all
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IF you're not willing to die for your rights/beliefs, don't try to take mine.
"NRA DOLLAR" sounds good. But the NRA may be fined for something like that, I dunno. Some of the more radical anti's will soon be stamping theres:
"Gun totin', baby killin', skin-head, natzi, sonofabitches' blood money"
hehe, oh well. Ya can't please 'em all
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IF you're not willing to die for your rights/beliefs, don't try to take mine.
Hay Bad Med, you make me think of this old post ..
I suggest now is the time for all of us to start telling our gun control friends that this is an issue we will not compromise on any more. Here is what I have started to do. I do not argue with my liberal friends about gun control. I do not try to change their minds, I do not lecture them about the historical perspectives on the Second or the dangers of the power of the state. I do not mention Lott or a thousand other sources that speak so eloquently of the practical reasons to be armed. I do not try to explain the feeling of freedom that comes from the acceptance of my position as a citizen with the right and obligation to defend myself or our liberty. Instead, I ask them politely and calmly the following question: "Is gun control an issue you are willing to die for? Does this mean so much to you that you would give your life to make it so?"
I then explain that to the us, the Second Amendment is the keystone of the Constitution. It is the most important right to us. It guarantees all of the others. It is to us what the First of the Fifth is to them. I tell them in a cold, sober tone, that we have been backed into a corner by their side, and that is always dangerous to do. I tell them that by never once considering, much less acknowledging, the validity of our views, they have waged a war on our liberty that has forced us to consider an option that none of us would have thought possible just 5 years ago.
I tell them that just as no Black man would ever go back to segregation, just as no American would give up freedom of speech, that just as none of us would stand by and let the government herd the Jews to another holocaust, so will we never, ever give in on the Second. I tell them that we are at fault for never making this clear to them. I explain that while you may think this is something of little importance, it is the one issue that can, and will, lead to a revolution in this country. Not one other issue on the political scene has the power to do this.
I conclude by telling them, as calmly and rationally as I can, that I do not want war, I do not want to kill anyone; I simply want to be left alone to live my life as a free American. However, I know my duty to my ancestors, who fought at Bunker Hill, to my children, who are counting on me to preserve their liberty until it is their turn, and to every American who values our liberty today, and if they persist in attacking a basic human right, they can, and should, expect us to fight back.
They inevitably respond that "You can't really expect to stand up to the army or the police." I then give them this example: Last year, about 20,000,000 Americans bought some type of hunting license. Toss out half of them as duplicates, kids, guys who enjoy the field but don't care if they shoot or not, and the like. That leaves 10,000,000. Assume just 10% are deadly serious about this. That leaves one million, well armed, skilled Americans who are not going to sit back while the anti's take their freedom. Imagine a guerrilla war with one million Americans doing nothing more than resisting an assault on their basic rights? It would be unwinnable without the imposition of a total police sate, and that is something even the anti's should fear.
Even one hundred thousand Americans, willing to pay the price and to fight back, would be enough to make this a reality. Selectively fighting back against those who take your liberty makes a lot more sense that blowing up innocent Americans. Targeting those who would enslave you makes them personally liable for their actions against us. Remember, they will paint us as terrorists, but in this case, we are doing nothing more than resisting the kind of tyranny that would have long ago prompted our ancestors to act. The issue here is whether we really have that resolve. I believe we do, but we have never made that clear to the other side.
I have no problem with anyone exercising their First Amendment right to speak against gun ownership, to lobby for passive acquiescence to crime or tyranny just so long as they never, ever attempt to make their personal views into laws that affect the rest of us.
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I suggest now is the time for all of us to start telling our gun control friends that this is an issue we will not compromise on any more. Here is what I have started to do. I do not argue with my liberal friends about gun control. I do not try to change their minds, I do not lecture them about the historical perspectives on the Second or the dangers of the power of the state. I do not mention Lott or a thousand other sources that speak so eloquently of the practical reasons to be armed. I do not try to explain the feeling of freedom that comes from the acceptance of my position as a citizen with the right and obligation to defend myself or our liberty. Instead, I ask them politely and calmly the following question: "Is gun control an issue you are willing to die for? Does this mean so much to you that you would give your life to make it so?"
I then explain that to the us, the Second Amendment is the keystone of the Constitution. It is the most important right to us. It guarantees all of the others. It is to us what the First of the Fifth is to them. I tell them in a cold, sober tone, that we have been backed into a corner by their side, and that is always dangerous to do. I tell them that by never once considering, much less acknowledging, the validity of our views, they have waged a war on our liberty that has forced us to consider an option that none of us would have thought possible just 5 years ago.
I tell them that just as no Black man would ever go back to segregation, just as no American would give up freedom of speech, that just as none of us would stand by and let the government herd the Jews to another holocaust, so will we never, ever give in on the Second. I tell them that we are at fault for never making this clear to them. I explain that while you may think this is something of little importance, it is the one issue that can, and will, lead to a revolution in this country. Not one other issue on the political scene has the power to do this.
I conclude by telling them, as calmly and rationally as I can, that I do not want war, I do not want to kill anyone; I simply want to be left alone to live my life as a free American. However, I know my duty to my ancestors, who fought at Bunker Hill, to my children, who are counting on me to preserve their liberty until it is their turn, and to every American who values our liberty today, and if they persist in attacking a basic human right, they can, and should, expect us to fight back.
They inevitably respond that "You can't really expect to stand up to the army or the police." I then give them this example: Last year, about 20,000,000 Americans bought some type of hunting license. Toss out half of them as duplicates, kids, guys who enjoy the field but don't care if they shoot or not, and the like. That leaves 10,000,000. Assume just 10% are deadly serious about this. That leaves one million, well armed, skilled Americans who are not going to sit back while the anti's take their freedom. Imagine a guerrilla war with one million Americans doing nothing more than resisting an assault on their basic rights? It would be unwinnable without the imposition of a total police sate, and that is something even the anti's should fear.
Even one hundred thousand Americans, willing to pay the price and to fight back, would be enough to make this a reality. Selectively fighting back against those who take your liberty makes a lot more sense that blowing up innocent Americans. Targeting those who would enslave you makes them personally liable for their actions against us. Remember, they will paint us as terrorists, but in this case, we are doing nothing more than resisting the kind of tyranny that would have long ago prompted our ancestors to act. The issue here is whether we really have that resolve. I believe we do, but we have never made that clear to the other side.
I have no problem with anyone exercising their First Amendment right to speak against gun ownership, to lobby for passive acquiescence to crime or tyranny just so long as they never, ever attempt to make their personal views into laws that affect the rest of us.
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