Good idea or bad idea?
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MagnumWill
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BAD idea. not for defense, but if you leave it in there relatively visible like that, you could possibly expect to get back from lunch to a broken window and an empty holster 
good way to get yourself killed. if i was carjacking you with any kind of weapon not just a gun and you reached for that i would make sure you were unable to more than gurgle.
most people that get killed in carjackings are done so while trying to retrieve a firearm or resist.
in a car jacking that i was unprepared for i would let the car go. or get out and then when they are getting in draw my gun while there attention is else where.
most people that get killed in carjackings are done so while trying to retrieve a firearm or resist.
in a car jacking that i was unprepared for i would let the car go. or get out and then when they are getting in draw my gun while there attention is else where.
A friend of mine deterred some would-be carjackers in the Jacksonville area through a well-timed display of a .45. Thing is, though, he was ahead of the OODA loop. Stuck at a train crossing, and saw the guys debating whether to approach his SUV when they saw he was stuck there.
For argument's sake, I'll assume his interpretation of their actions, including furtiveness and apparently looking around to ensure no witnesses, was accurate and these guys weren't just very furtive pan-handlers.
Anyway, he didn't try a fast draw when covered by a weapon; he saw their behavior, kept an eye on them, and drew quietly when they started their approach.
Awareness trumps gadgets.
Getting behind the loop, but trying to draw, is betting on poor odds.
For argument's sake, I'll assume his interpretation of their actions, including furtiveness and apparently looking around to ensure no witnesses, was accurate and these guys weren't just very furtive pan-handlers.
Anyway, he didn't try a fast draw when covered by a weapon; he saw their behavior, kept an eye on them, and drew quietly when they started their approach.
Awareness trumps gadgets.
Getting behind the loop, but trying to draw, is betting on poor odds.
In an accident that thing is going to take flight. It's one reason I always keep mine on my person and the same goes for the cell phone. I don't use it as the audio player in the car because if I'm in an accident I'll need it, laying on the dash or in a dock means its out of reach after impact.
Bill DeShivs
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I have one in my car.
The only way it would "go flying" is if you were hit from the rear-hard. It makes a gun easily retrievable while driving. Perfectly legal for me.
The only way it would "go flying" is if you were hit from the rear-hard. It makes a gun easily retrievable while driving. Perfectly legal for me.
checkmyswag
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I'm more concerned about a violent panhandler than a car jacker! Mostly because of my old/undesirable ride and the relatively aggressive behavior of beggars in my fair burgh.
Bill DeShivs
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Memphis is sorta like Johannesburg or Cape Town....
Mleake, I'm just wondering...how many others here other than you and I have been schooled on what exactly is an OODA loop? Yes, I remember those days from the Joint Operations Course...
Back on topic, I can see many disadvantages to storing a pistol in a location that is not truly concealed. I understand that laws vary from state to state; at any rate, I would choose to keep my pistol concealed in a way that only I know it's there....until such a moment that I choose otherwise.
Back on topic, I can see many disadvantages to storing a pistol in a location that is not truly concealed. I understand that laws vary from state to state; at any rate, I would choose to keep my pistol concealed in a way that only I know it's there....until such a moment that I choose otherwise.
Sorry, I forgot the cardinal rule of acronyms: Put the full text at least once, associated with the acronym, so people don't have to go look stuff up.
(Then again, looking stuff up can be highly instructive.)
Anyway, OODA stands for Observe, Orient, Decide, Act.
Theory is that before you can act, you have to decide to act.
The decision is based on orientation, or assimilation and partial processing of things observed.
Orientation requires observation, IE you can't assimilate and process facts you never notice.
Getting inside the enemy's OODA loop used to be a focus in a lot of military training.
Now, back to our regular programming....
(Then again, looking stuff up can be highly instructive.)
Anyway, OODA stands for Observe, Orient, Decide, Act.
Theory is that before you can act, you have to decide to act.
The decision is based on orientation, or assimilation and partial processing of things observed.
Orientation requires observation, IE you can't assimilate and process facts you never notice.
Getting inside the enemy's OODA loop used to be a focus in a lot of military training.
Now, back to our regular programming....
Walklightly
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Sportsmanguide.com, Darwin Awards...
This carry rig reminds me of the tacky stainless/nickeled truck gear shifter shaped like a N framed revolver grip. It was in The Sportsman's Guide.
I could just picture some state trooper or rookie patrol officer fresh off of probation drilling some hapless driver over the knob shifter that looks like a revolver.
That's as dumb as the cell phone/gun or the ball cap with razor blades in the bill.
Do they still have the Darwin Awards? Lol.
ClydeFrog
This carry rig reminds me of the tacky stainless/nickeled truck gear shifter shaped like a N framed revolver grip. It was in The Sportsman's Guide.
I could just picture some state trooper or rookie patrol officer fresh off of probation drilling some hapless driver over the knob shifter that looks like a revolver.
That's as dumb as the cell phone/gun or the ball cap with razor blades in the bill.
Do they still have the Darwin Awards? Lol.
ClydeFrog
overkill0084
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Fine for you.
Is there an agreement where the Carjacker's Union has set policy for allowing their victim to retrieve babies in car seats (or any other immobile/handicapped passengers)? Sometimes simply getting out and running isn't always an appropriate option.
I don't like it. I'm not entirely sure if its legal in my state - having a CCW license would probably make that legal but I'm not a fan of it myself either. Coincidentally my wife found that same rig and showed me saying, "Honey this would be great for the car wouldn't it?"
I replied, "What's wrong with keeping my gun on me?"
I'd rather be able to be mobile and keep my gun ie. a potential carjacker tells me to get out of my car at gun point I doubt I'd get the chance to reach for the all too visible gun beneath my steering column. I think there's a better chance of defending my vehicle and family if I could keep my gun on me where I could draw once I was out of the car and the carjacker was pre-occupied with getting into the car.
I replied, "What's wrong with keeping my gun on me?"
I'd rather be able to be mobile and keep my gun ie. a potential carjacker tells me to get out of my car at gun point I doubt I'd get the chance to reach for the all too visible gun beneath my steering column. I think there's a better chance of defending my vehicle and family if I could keep my gun on me where I could draw once I was out of the car and the carjacker was pre-occupied with getting into the car.
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