Good Colt DA Revolver Websites?

I was wondering if there are any good websites with info on Colt's DA revolvers mostly on the Mark III Trooper. I know you can pay Colt like $75 bucks for real detailed information, but I tend to like to save that money for other things. Any recommendations?
 
I have wondered (and looked for) the same thing. There is a Colt site at United Forums, but it is dead. There is a really good Colt forum at www.1911forum.com but it is obviously oriented to 1911 pistols. However, you do see some Python and Anaconda questions being asked and answered occasionally. I would like to find a Colt website that is as good as the S&W forum. NG Bruce
Ps How are things in the railroad town of Hamlet?
 
NG Bruce, Hamlet is doing fine I guess lol. I am trying to get used to railroad horns blaring all night long though :eek: . I'll be up there in Greenville in a couple years though (Transfer to East Carolina).
 
The Trooper Mk III was available chambered in either 38 Special or 357 Mag. 4 & 6" barrels were available, in both service and target configurations. The triggers and hammers varied with the configuration ordered.

The Mk III series is known as the Colt "J" frame. Other revolvers in this series were the Metropolitan Mk III, The Lawman Mk III, the Official Police Mk III & the Officers Model Match Mk III.

A fine, highly detailed service manual, The Colt Double Action Revolvers, Volume II, by Jerry Kuhnhausen is available from VSP Publishers, McCall, Idaho. It is sold by numerous online booksellers.

Bob
 
I don't have my serial number info available, but I am very knowledgeable on the Colt post war revolvers, including the Trooper Mark III guns.

If you have questions, ask away.
 
I wish there was a nice sight devoted to just S&W and Colt revolvers. But unfortunately, I don't know of one. Smiths have great revolver coverage at the www.smith-wessonforum.com but I don't know of anything similar for Colts. We recently tried to get a separtate section for revolvers at 1911 but nothing came of it even though lots of members said they would like it.

Also hi to Hamlet. Spent lots of time there, Rockingham, Dunn, Irwin, ...
 
Thanks for the website Dfariswheel, but it is pretty darn dead. For right now I only have 3 questions about the Trooper MK III:

1. I have heard the firing pin is fairly hard, and dry-firing is bad for the pin, so should I just go get some snap-caps?

2. How do you remove the cylinder for easy cleaning?

3. Is it okay to run hot Magnum rounds through it?

And if you have any additional info about it you can toss it in. (I'm not new to revolvers, but since this is a Colt DA it has a special place in my heart :) ...... still waiting for the bright day when I can get a Python though. Mmmmmm snakey goodness

PS: The serial # is 60xxxL if you do happen to come across any serial info, but if you can't don't worry about it. :)
 
EARRRRR 'ya go........
1. SOME "J" frame firing pins are too hard. While few and far between, there is no practical way of telling. If the firing pin breaks, it means a trip back to Colt for a replacement. Under NO circumstances attempt this yourself, or allow anyone except the factory to do it. The firing pin retaining pin and the firing pin bushing must be pressed out with special support fixtures, and the bushing must be restaked with a special tool after the new pin is in place.
Best bet.....Use snap caps.

To remove the cylinder, remove the "screw" on the right front side of the frame. This is actually a cap, with a spring and stud underneath. Remove them and the cylinder and crane can be slid forward and off. For more disassemble see the book listed below.

The Trooper Mark III was designed to handle full Magnum ammo, although over pressure or really hot reloads will wear it prematurely. Stick to standard Magnum ammo and it will last about forever.

A brief history of the Mark III series.
By the late 60's Colt could no longer compete in the market with their older "I" frame revolvers like the Official Police and Trooper.
These old model guns required extensive hand fitting of parts, and the labor involved was pricing them out of the market.

In 1969 Colt developed the "J" frame series guns and discontinued all of the older "I" frame revolvers except for the Python.
The first gun in the series was the Trooper Mark III, based on the new "J" frame. Later guns were the Lawman, Metropolitan Police, and Official Police MK III, among others. Later guns based on the "J" frame were the Trooper Mark V, and the last in the series, the King Cobra.

The Trooper MK III guns were available in .357 Magnum, .22 Long Rifle, and .22 magnum.
Barrels lengths were 4", 6" and 8"
Finishes were Bright blue, bright nickel, and matt electroless nickel/"Colt Guard".

In the mid 80's the Trooper Mk III was replaced by the Trooper V, which had an improved double action trigger pull, a "short action"
and a reshaped butt completely covered by the grips.
Later the Trooper V was replaced by the almost identical King Cobra, which was basically the Trooper V made of stainless with a heavy lugged barrel.

The "J" frame was a first in the gun market in several respects.
It introduced the first modern revolver to use a transfer bar ignition system. This system was so simple and fool-proof, that every revolver designed since uses a variation of the Colt design.
Among others, Ruger, Dan Wesson, and Tauras use almost exact copies of the Colt system.

The "J" frame was also the first revolver made that was designed to use parts that required little or no hand fitting. Unlike the older Colt guns, the "J" parts are ALMOST drop in.
The down side of this is that unlike the older guns, a part that wears or becomes defective must be replaced. While older Colt revolver parts could be refitted, the "J" parts must be replaced, since no refitting is possible.

The "J" frame was also the first revolver to use "sintered steel" technology. This is simular to todays MIM technology.
In the sintered steel process, powdered metal is injected into a mould and heated to red heat. The metal melts and fills out the mould. Parts come out of the mould needing only fine fitting adjustments, and surface hardening.
Sintered parts include the hammer, trigger, bolt, and cylinder latch finger piece, among others.

The "J" frame parts are casehardened to provide a long wearing surface, and the hammers are color casehardened for appearance.

Most springs in the "J" frames are stainless steel coil springs.

The "J" frame action is one of the simplest revolvers ever designed, consisting of essentially a hammer, trigger, bolt, and transfer bar.

Jerry Kunhausen's book Gunsmithing the Colt Revolvers, Volume Two, the J, V, and AA guns, is recommended to any Trooper III owner. It gives complete details on disassembly and repair. It's money very well spent.

Kunhausen is of the opinion that these Colt revolvers may well be the strongest mid frame revolvers ever made, due to the forged and well heat-treated frames.

The Trooper Mark III is an absolutely first rate revolver unmatched by any of todays guns. The quality of the finish and fitting is amazing, considering the gun was to be Colt's "budget" line of revolvers. The blue job is closer to the Python than to the older Trooper type finishes.

I highly recommend the Trooper MK III in .22LR as a companion gun. The .22 is a very heavy revolver since it has the same frame and large cylinder only bored for the far smaller .22.
These large, heavy .22 caliber guns shoot more like rifles, and give lots of Trooper shooting at .22 caliber prices.

All in all, you've got a true classic gun that will far outlast you, given minimal care and a diet of reasonable ammo.
 
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Dfariswheel:

Informative write-up!

I have a Colt Officer's Model Match in .38SPL. Colt told me it's birthyear wa s 1960. Also said it was an "E" frame that become their "I" frame.

Is this a Mark III ?

Is shooting +P ammo ok to do?
 
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No, the Mark III is built on Colt's "J" frame (Not to be confused with S&W's "J" frame which is entirely different.)

You can safely shoot +P ammunition in your older Officer's Model Match. However in time it may loosen it up. The Officer" Model Match was intended to by used as a bullseye target gun with modest loads. It will stand up to more stout ones, but why abuse it? If you want to shoot more then an occasional +P .38 I would trade the gun and buy a .357 Magnum. Then you could shoot Magnum cartridges as well as a full range of .38 Special loadings.
 
Like Fluff said, I'g give the +P a pass.
Back then, there really was no such thing as +P ammo.

Gun makers traditionally use the cheapest steel and lowest grade heat treat possible THAT WILL DO THE JOB, plus some tolerance for safety and longevity.

In the early 60's, since there was no +P, the guns were heat treated to standard .38 Special specs. Yes, the same steel was used, but it's the heat treating that determines a Special or Magnum gun.
Colt used to constantly get requests to rechamber .38 Special Troopers to .357 Mag. They always refused, knowing that the gun wouldn't stand up safely.

I've seen a number of older Colt Official Police and Trooper guns that have been fed fair amounts of +P, and most of them show definite signs of battering. The breech faces show ratchet battering and the frames often show stretching.

I've seen 2 or 3 older Colts that were locally rechambered to .357 that were wrecked and unsafe. In at least one case the owner absolutely refused to listen to reason, and continued to shoot this old Trooper, until the cylinder finally let go one day and seriously injured both him and his 8 year old daughter, who was standing too close.

In short, gun companies make guns to specs for the intended ammo and use. The older Colts were not made for ammo that didn't exist at that time.
With that said, shooting a limited amount of +P ammo will do little real harm, but a steady diet will.

Unless you want to use your Officer's Model Match for defense, there really isn't any sense in shooting +P ammo at all.

As Fluff said, the OMM was a dedicated target revolver, that most match shooters fed only the light Mid-range target wadcutter ammo.
 
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