Gold Cup quality

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Tankist

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Hi everyone,

Great place. I've been following this board for months but this is my first posting. I have recently purchased a NIB series 80 Gold Cup. By recently I mean about 4 months ago, unfortunately due to NYC laws it takes about that long to actually take possesion of a firearm. How's that for a waiting period.

Anyway, my question is about overall quality one should expect from a new in the box Gold Cup. Overall, I was very satisfied with my choise up until I noticed a good sized scratch on the frame just above the triger. Are those kinds things something to be expected and tolerated. I mean, am I crazy for thinking about sending it back to Colt to have it buffed out or what?

I guess this is something of a sanity check for me. What do you think.
 
Pretty poor for the money. I had a govt. model of similar vintage that was much better finished. They must not have been hung over from the weekend when they made it. My GC would've failed quality control at a better company.

You're crazy for thinking about sending it to Colt. For starters, you never know when they'll go bankrupt.

Next, you'll get it back w/ more problems than you sent it in and they'll probably end up bead blasting the shiny parts w/ overspray, like the Python I sent back 5 times in one year.

Last, the slide stop marks the frame and is normal wear
 
I love mine, but HATE the Elliason rear sights. The roll pin breaks wayyyy too often with the full-house loads that I use, and is almost impossible to replace.
 
I have owned a few GC's over the years and they have been very nicely finished firearms {wish I had one or two back}. They shot well also.

Last year I had occasion to see a "newer" version of the GC!!! I was embarrassed for Colt at the fit and finish of the firearm. I didn't fire this one but if it shot like it looked...?

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[This message has been edited by JMC (edited August 17, 2000).]
 
My only experience with the GC has been shooting next to them on the range. I was shooting my little Sig P239 in 9mm, and was absolutely lapping the guy next to me with his GC. He kept looking over to see what I was shooting, and I'm holding this little bitty thing in my hands with 2" groups down at about 15 yards, and he can't do it at 7. I think a lot of it was him, but I tried one later and was totally unimpressed with the pistol.

My recommendation to you is to not shoot it much (if at all) and set it aside as a collector's piece. It will likely increase in value, in my opinion.
 
Tankist,

Sounds like someone marked the frame with the slide stop when assembling the pistol.


Colt’s “repair service” is the worst I’ve ever experienced. I’d think long and hard before sending anything to them for repair. I sent my Ace to them three times for the same problem, which they never did fix even though they kept it for close to a year total time.

I’d be tempted to overlook the scratch and just enjoy shooting the gun.
Good luck with it.
 
I own two 70 Series Gold Cups. They're beautifully finished, and the one that I shoot works flawlessly. I did replace the sights with Meps, which, I believe, are also Eliason. I put a little Loctite on the pin (mine isn't a roll pin) and it doesn't come out or break. I currently have my G.C. outfitted with a threaded, compensated Accu-Match .400 Cor-Bon barrel.

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I have one of the last of the pre-Series '70 Gold Cups (Actually, it only says "National Match on the slide) and it's a nice target pistol, despite the lightened slide. Trigger pull from the factory is crisp at 3.75 lbs. The ones made now simply don't compare . . .
 
If that scratch on the frame is on the left side of the frame, it is a sure sign that it has been taken apart by a ham fisted amateur. Who scratched the frame trying to get the slide stop back in the gun after taking it apart. Some dumb ass, took your gun apart and didn't know how to properly reassembe it, without scratching the frame. Gold Cups are fine guns and I wish that I owned one. If I had my druthers, it would be a Pre Series 70 or even a Series 70.

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I sent my Delta Elite to Colt about two months ago. The gun is ten years old, and I'm not the original owner, but they replaced the slide (which had become damaged in/around the firing pin safety plunger area) at no charge. They quoted a 30-day turnaround time, and I had the gun in hand 33 days later. The new slide is, if anything, better fit and finished than the original. I've never received better customer service on any product of any kind.
 
I have a Series 80 Gold cup, which I am very fond of. I have suffered a broken pin in the rear sight recently, but this did not disable the gun, only caused it to be off three or so inches at 50'. Also, the replacement took less than a minute. BTW, a roll pin for a Ruger Speed Six front sight fits nicely!

I have ordered a replacement sight from Brownell's, but I would be comfortable with a solid pin held in place with loctite.

The pistol is very reliable, and very accurate.
 
Thanks for the warm welcome guys.

Yeah, it does look like some one had some trouble reassembling the pistol. I think it's highly unlikely that it came out of the factory like that. The scratch is on the left side just above the trigger, in the bead blasted area right below the slide stop.

Doesn't look very deep. But, bugs the hell out of me nontheless. If not Colt then who could I send it to have this repaired.

What the hell, I've already waited over 3 months and overpaid a couple of hundred dollars. What's another couple of weeks and a few more bucks.
 
Welcome Tankist. Your best bet in NYC is to fill out a Request For Purchase Order Form as soon as you have your Gold Cup registered to cut down on your waiting time. While the form says the waiting period is 4 to 6 weeks in reality it will be more like 3 months. More than that is unusual. Good luck with your new gun. :)
Ronin

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Any GOOD gunsmith can fix this, but I'd shoot it for a while b/c the bead blasting will show wear fairly soon and the gun has to be masked w/ tape and stuck in a cabinet to get the blasting treatment, so you ought to get a little wear for the money you're going to spend.

It costs me ~$40 to have this done in the Midwest, so figure about $500 in NY.

Also, mine is SS, blued guns need rebluing (a cool grand in NY, I bet).

[This message has been edited by B Shipley (edited August 21, 2000).]
 
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