Going back in Time to Northfield, MN to stop the Jessie James Gang
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Edmund Rowe
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Do I get to bring modern firearms or just what was in use at the time?
If I have to use period firearms, then a lever action rifle like the 1873 Winchester in .44-40, a revolver similarly chambered, or possibly two identical revolvers.
If I can get setup in a good overwatch position over the street where the action takes place, I'll bring a Remington Rolling Block with good tang sights in .45-70 for those more precise and heavy-hitting shots. If/when the gang makes a run for it, the 1873 lever-action is coming out.
If I remember correctly, one of the Younger brothers soaked up a LOT of bullets (19?) in that fight and still fled town to be captured and incarcerated later. I'm not too confident in the .44-40 as it is still a pistol caliber but for the short range furious action, the lever actions were the best of that period. So if the fight is static and controlled to some extent, the .45-70 should do a number on the baddies.
I would say a side-by-side shotgun like a Greener of the period but I'm not confident in the use of a 2-shot firearm using paper shells at best. Probably would work well for those first 2, but...
If I get to bring modern firearms, well, that's just too easy!!
Edmund
If I have to use period firearms, then a lever action rifle like the 1873 Winchester in .44-40, a revolver similarly chambered, or possibly two identical revolvers.
If I can get setup in a good overwatch position over the street where the action takes place, I'll bring a Remington Rolling Block with good tang sights in .45-70 for those more precise and heavy-hitting shots. If/when the gang makes a run for it, the 1873 lever-action is coming out.
If I remember correctly, one of the Younger brothers soaked up a LOT of bullets (19?) in that fight and still fled town to be captured and incarcerated later. I'm not too confident in the .44-40 as it is still a pistol caliber but for the short range furious action, the lever actions were the best of that period. So if the fight is static and controlled to some extent, the .45-70 should do a number on the baddies.
I would say a side-by-side shotgun like a Greener of the period but I'm not confident in the use of a 2-shot firearm using paper shells at best. Probably would work well for those first 2, but...
If I get to bring modern firearms, well, that's just too easy!!
Edmund
Dennis Olson
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From ambush: .300 WinMag with high power scope.
Confrontation: MP5 or M16. (Even if they didn't die, they'd be seeing Jesus!) And don't forget the vest.
Confrontation: MP5 or M16. (Even if they didn't die, they'd be seeing Jesus!) And don't forget the vest.
I'll have to go along with RikWriter.
I think the only one NOT shot during the confusion was Cole Younger.
When the posse finally caught up with the Youngers and Charlie Pitts, 14 days later, he (Cole) ended up with 7 holes in him after the shoot out, but was still the only one out of that bunch able to stand.
That particular confrontation happened after the James brothers separated from them.
Frank was shot in the thigh, and Jesse had a slug in his side. They made their way to Chicago and found a doctor "who could keep a quiet mouth."
[This message has been edited by Outlaw1 (edited July 30, 2000).]
I think the only one NOT shot during the confusion was Cole Younger.
When the posse finally caught up with the Youngers and Charlie Pitts, 14 days later, he (Cole) ended up with 7 holes in him after the shoot out, but was still the only one out of that bunch able to stand.
That particular confrontation happened after the James brothers separated from them.
Frank was shot in the thigh, and Jesse had a slug in his side. They made their way to Chicago and found a doctor "who could keep a quiet mouth."
[This message has been edited by Outlaw1 (edited July 30, 2000).]
Rich Lucibella
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Hmmm-
If I've read the right history, I believe I'd arm myself with an honest pardon for Jesse and Frank's actions in the Civil War, rather than hunting them down on their way home.
Rich
If I've read the right history, I believe I'd arm myself with an honest pardon for Jesse and Frank's actions in the Civil War, rather than hunting them down on their way home.
Rich
What was that they used in the Gulf...A1 Tankkiller...'warthog'? Course after one or two passes they's have to rebuild the town....
Oh...guess I'm supposed to stick with handheld weapons huh? AK47 with a couple or three drum mags and an FAL/FN in .308 with a scope and muffler.
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Oh...guess I'm supposed to stick with handheld weapons huh? AK47 with a couple or three drum mags and an FAL/FN in .308 with a scope and muffler.
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Rich Lucibella
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Glamdring-
As I understand it, Jesse and Frank were headed home from service with Quantrell when Jesse was wounded by a bounty hunter....there was a price on Quantrell's people.
The brothers took to robbing banks after this event....I guess farming was no longer an option. In their efforts to capture them, the Pinkertons, ever the soul of fair play, later managed to blow their Mom's arm off when they lobbed a bomb into her house.
The brothers were no where around.
Rich
As I understand it, Jesse and Frank were headed home from service with Quantrell when Jesse was wounded by a bounty hunter....there was a price on Quantrell's people.
The brothers took to robbing banks after this event....I guess farming was no longer an option. In their efforts to capture them, the Pinkertons, ever the soul of fair play, later managed to blow their Mom's arm off when they lobbed a bomb into her house.
The brothers were no where around.
Rich
Rich Lucibella
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James-
The Pinkertons worked for more powerful forces than the US Govt...names like Fisk (?), Morgan and the like....railroad barons.
Rich
The Pinkertons worked for more powerful forces than the US Govt...names like Fisk (?), Morgan and the like....railroad barons.
Rich
"In the winter of 1875, there occurred the famous 'night of blood' when the Pinkertons and a posse of local men raided the Samuel farmhouse. [Zerelda Cole James Simms Samuel, was Jesse W. James' mother.] A bomb -- actually an iron pot of Greek fire which was used by spies in the Civil War to start incendiary fires -- was hurled through a window. The explosion tore off the right arm of Jesse's mother and killed his young stepbrother."
The Pictorial History of the Wild West, James D. Horan & Paul Sann, Crown Publishers, Inc., N.Y. (c) 1954.
The James-Younger gangsters had been robbing banks, trains, stagecoaches, and murdering innocent people ever since the end of the War For Southern Independence, in 1865, when they road with W.C. Quantrill and his raiders.
The Northfield raid took place in September of 1876. The bandits killed were Bill Stiles (alias Bill Chadwell), Clell Miller, and Charlie Pitts. Bandits captured were Cole, James, and Robert Younger. Cole had been hit eleven times (some shotgun pellets????).The Younger brothers were sentenced to life imprisionment in state prison.
Jesse James was killed April 3, 1882.
FWIW. J.B.
The Pictorial History of the Wild West, James D. Horan & Paul Sann, Crown Publishers, Inc., N.Y. (c) 1954.
The James-Younger gangsters had been robbing banks, trains, stagecoaches, and murdering innocent people ever since the end of the War For Southern Independence, in 1865, when they road with W.C. Quantrill and his raiders.
The Northfield raid took place in September of 1876. The bandits killed were Bill Stiles (alias Bill Chadwell), Clell Miller, and Charlie Pitts. Bandits captured were Cole, James, and Robert Younger. Cole had been hit eleven times (some shotgun pellets????).The Younger brothers were sentenced to life imprisionment in state prison.
Jesse James was killed April 3, 1882.
FWIW. J.B.