go to all around gun

oldbear1950

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Let's stir the pot, what is everyone's favorite go to gun , to have with you all the time.
For me is my new ROSSI stainless 16 inch barrel in 38/357 or my new Rossi
45 colt/454, Here in south Alabama, those two will do for most anything, from snakes, to hogs, to gators. to two legged varmints, and of course deer.
and being stainless , either one makes a good truck gun
 
It would depend, I think, on where one lives and what chores you think you're likely to have to accomplish. For where I live in rural Indiana, I'm hard pressed to think of a more useful or practical all-around gun than my Winchester 94 .30-30. The Winchester is a light, fast-handling, well-balanced, and just all-around handy rifle and .30-30 is more than powerful enough to take any animal I'm going to encounter in the midwest short of a jailbreak from the zoo. While a .30-30 levergun might lose some points to an autoloading black rifle when it comes to anti-personnel use, it still cycles fast enough and hold enough cartridges for me to feel confident for anything short of Red Dawn, The Walking Dead, or Space Invaders.
 
go all around gun

the 92 was the pistol version cartridges, that browning designed to take the place of the 73 winchester. My 454 holds 10 rounds of 45 colt and 9 rounds of 454. my 38/357 holds 6 and 7 rounds, and as fast as you work the lever, and also has the distinction of not being disallowed in states that dont like ar's or ak's
 
GP rifle

Key phrase "all around", not just Indiana or south Alabama, but ALL around. That will effect my choice. However, consider the first responses.

I find it interesting in the day of the black rifle, that the OP and the first response listed the traditional lever carbine, in more or less (in the case of the .454) traditional chamberings. I doubt this trend continues, as the popularity of the AR is enormous. But the appeal of the flat, lightweight carbine with a tube full of cartridges is hard to deny. Before we had to have lights, lasers, foregrips a full box of cartridges and the kitchen sink attached to our carbines, the Winlin's were indeed the GP rifle, seen in scabbards, gun racks in pickups, and propped in corners or hung over the doorway of rural folks everywhere. Eminently portable and amply powerful (ya like that?), so armed, one could sally forth and deal with most anything. Seems I read somewhere that noted explorers of the day did just that. I myself logged a lot of miles with a .357 Marlin until......

We had an incident where a captive elk got loose and roamed about busy suburbia . Then another episode where a bull maddened and panicked from the slaughterhouse, rampaged about near downtown. Heck, bamaboy himself had to dispatch a rogue steer recently that had caused multiple MVA's in the same city. I watched another bull terrorize my neighborhood as a kid, it had come out of a trailer while being transported. I formed the argument for more power than the pistol caliber carbine could offer. But there was another factor also.

I could no longer effectively run iron sights on the stubby barreled carbines. I had gone to a peep about a decade before, maybe more, and that allowed running carbines w/o glass for a while longer. I reasoned that if I was going to have to scope a long gun, and was searching for more power and gain added reach in the process , I might as well go all out and take the step up to.......

My GP, do all rifle these days is a .308 bolt carbine, specifically a Ruger Predator, the 18" model, with a tiny Leupold 1.5-4x on board, mounted conventionally. It offers more reach than my ability to shoot well, and plenty of power. It's bladed trigger makes it easy to shoot well, and it shoots tiny quarter size groups too. It's little more trouble to carry than the old Marlin. Affordable, it's poly stock and matte finish tolerates rough use and I don't wince if I scratch it (well a little). It's lighter and shorter than it's GP predecessor, a Savage 10FC Scout and despite my admiration of the scout rifle, the conventionally mounted scope on the Ruger lets me see better under all conditions.

As all things these days are to be tactical, I've considered attaching a short piece of picatinny rail on the side of the forearm to take a light but have not done it. I also bought the ACIS mag well adapter so I could use 10 rd mags, but I have not installed that either. I have considered a slightly different scope, still an LPV but with a lighted aiming point, say a Vortex Crossfire, but the Leupold on board at present is very tidy and lighter with a 1" tube ahead of the Vortex and other 30mm numbers.

I'm quite pleased with the little rifle.
 
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The truth is , I could probably do better with a scope, but about the only scope I would consider would be scout type scope to put in place of the rear sight.
That 357 mag, and the 454 would probably be as powerful as I would want to go in an urban environment,
To many folks around and that includes kids.
 
originally posted by bamaranger
Key phrase "all around", not just Indiana or south Alabama, but ALL around. That will effect my choice. However, consider the first responses.

I really don't think that there's any such thing as an "all around" rifle to handle every possible situation, for that matter I don't think my Winchester is even the best for every situation that I might have to deal with. For example, if I heard breaking glass in the middle of the night, I'd probably reach for my AR-15 and if there were pests eating the tomatoes in my wife's garden I'd probably pick up my Ruger 10/22, but the Winchester can accomplish both of those tasks, and a lot more, adequately.

I find it interesting in the day of the black rifle, that the OP and the first response listed the traditional lever carbine, in more or less (in the case of the .454) traditional chamberings. I doubt this trend continues, as the popularity of the AR is enormous. But the appeal of the flat, lightweight carbine with a tube full of cartridges is hard to deny. Before we had to have lights, lasers, foregrips a full box of cartridges and the kitchen sink attached to our carbines, the Winlin's were indeed the GP rifle, seen in scabbards, gun racks in pickups, and propped in corners or hung over the doorway of rural folks everywhere. Eminently portable and amply powerful (ya like that?), so armed, one could sally forth and deal with most anything. Seems I read somewhere that noted explorers of the day did just that. I myself logged a lot of miles with a .357 Marlin until......

It's kind of amusing to me that a lot of older gun designs, including lever guns, are experiencing something of a renaissance right now. It seems like a lot of younger people who have only had experience with the "black rifles" are suddenly discovering just how useful, handy, and downright fun lever-action rifles can be. Also, when you look at some of the ridiculous laws and regulations in force in certain parts of the country, a fast-handling lever gun starts to make a lot of sense as compared to the goofy modifications needed to make a "black rifle" legal in some jurisdictions.

Another advantage to something like a lever-action is, as oldbear1950 pointed out, they have a more benign look than a "scary" gun like an AR or AK. Even in so-called "red states" where guns like AR's and AK's are legal, certain localities have differing politics and having, much less using, a "black rifle" can get one looked at with a more jaundiced eye than a more traditional looking gun. Even in deep-red Indiana, the city-county council in Indianapolis, with the full support of the Mayor and Prosecutor, recently passed gun-control ordinances including a ban on so-called "assault weapons" though these ordinances are unenforceable due to our state preemption law. I would be pretty nervous about defending myself with my AR if I lived in Indy (thankfully I don't), particularly if a mass-shooting were in the news, it was an election year, or the person I had to shoot was of, shall we say, a different demographic than me. Finally, while AR's are legal to hunt with in Indiana (assuming it's in a legal caliber for the game you're hunting) and many people do, I can't help but think that my old Winchester will draw a lot less attention from the game warden than an AR would.
 
From many years to about 1982 I drove a Ford F150 4x4 and probably spent more time than not roaming the first Nevada desert, then the Arizona desert after a job transfer in 1970. During that time that truck had an Indian blanket seat cover that had a pouch that ran alongside the front of the bench seat in the truck. It was a bit uncomfortable with a scoped bolt action rifle but held an M94 Winchester or 336 Marlin carbine right handily. During a deer or elk hunt it held the appropriate rifle for the task at hand. IIRC, it was around 1982/3 that I traded that truck off for something newer and lost the option of that style seat cover. :( I rigged up a scabbard that hung behind the seat and used it instead and that worked until that truck went down the road. Last two truck though really had no convenient way to store a rifle which is something that bothers me but seriously, health problems pretty much keep this old desert rat out of the desert anymore.
Still, if I were still able to get out and about, most likely it's be my old M94 30-30 that gets to ride along.
Paul B.
 
Probably my M700 .308 is my go to all around gun these days. I had the barrel cut down to 18" so it's pretty compact and handy. Plus it has plenty of reach still when I need to stretch things out.
 
Remington Model 7 in 7-08 - short barrel lightweight, accurate, and will take pretty much anything I care to hunt from coyotes to elk
 
I almost purchased a lever gun this year, well at least I wanted one when I had the money but the gun wasn’t in stock. I finally gave up and put the money into another AR

In 2024 AR15s can be had for “knock-around the floorboard” of an old truck prices. There are a few tried and true alternative calibers if .223 isn’t your thing.

In another decade maybe something different, but today I have to say AR15 carbine in .223. Guns are cheap, ammunition is cheap’ish (been cheaper) and most are rugged and reliable enough.

I must add that I used to hate ARs. At some point I could no longer ignore the utility of them. You can even repair them with limited tools.
 
GP

Certainly there is not one rifle that can do all things. But I think that there are rifles that can do more across the board than others. Also, the negative image created by black rifles, while misdirected, exists.. AR hate exists, even in our own circles. I know a lot of fellas, hunters and shooters now mind you, who openly condemn ownership and question the platforms utility. You won't change their mind either. My suggestion earlier was a bolt carbine in .308. That is indeed plenty of cartridge, but I'll suggest another rig, a bolt carbine in 7.62x39mm.

Ruger offers their bolt Ranch Rifle in the cartridge. Howa and CZ have a nifty carbines in the chambering as well. The Soviet cartridge runs on the heels of the old 30-30, which is about all most of will need. I've got a Ruger MkII, LW stainless, in the chambering, synthetic boat paddle stock to boot. Were it not sought so heavily by Ruger fans and valued so highly, it would see more use.

The availability of the x39mm cartridge seems to have waned with the regulations effecting its import from Russia. One local shop has reduced its inventory of AK rifles, stating they just are not selling as well as they were. What steel case I find has nearly doubled in price. The cartridge is still available, just not the bargain it was. It is also as versatile as ever. While not an elk or bull cartridge, with bullet weights up to 150 grs and velocities around 2000 fps, it is certainly effective on deer and hogs within its range. Speaking of range, it is notably faster and thus flatter than the big bore pistol cartridges, allowing hits out around 200 yds, ,where hits with .44/.454 begin to approach morter fire.
 
It is a sad state of affairs that even in gun friendly states, black rifles have a negative image. Lever guns seem ok to a lot of folks. I would like to have a good Marlin or Rossi copy of a Marlin in 30-30, and wish Savage would bring back the 99 in 300 savage.
That round is really close to a 308, and would be nice to be able to buy a new one
 
Marlin 882SS. Stainless/Synthetic, .22 WMR.

Not legal for big game. Not practical for plinking.

But I love it.

I hope to supplant it with a 100% custom Marlin 336 .30-30 that I've been working on for years. But that is currently just a hope. I know it shoots well, and I love what I've done so far. But it isn't ready. I need to finish it first.


Now, if you want something legal for big game, I'll have to grab the Ruger 77 Mk II in .270 Win. Stainless / laminate, I believe it was called the "Sporter" model when made. Ol' Reliable always does its job.
Timney trigger, pillar bedded, and threaded 19" barrel. Otherwise just a stock rifle. It has put a lot of meat on the table and smiles on my face.
And my wife's. She calls it the "pretty gun".
 
you'll hate this one

Ready.......a Mini30:eek:

Wait, .........consider it the modern saddle rifle, near 30-30 power and near the same size and weight. Accuracy equal to a lever carbine (maybe?). Easily scoped if needs be. Range to 200 yds plus. Fair trigger. Hi cap mags available if that matters. Wood and steel models available. Ruger support net. Soviet/Russian ammo is not as cheap as it was, but 7.62x39mm is still widely available. Plus I think about all domestic ammo companies offer the cartridge.

Somebody will mention that the rifle has a bad reputation with fail to fire and steel case. OK........shoot brass domestic and quit griping.
 
I had two series 180 mini 14s and they were a hoot to shoot, but probably the most inaccurate guns I ever shot.
Got rid of them as soon as I could find someone wanted em more than I did.
 
Not saying my two Rossi 92s most accurate, nor the most powerful, but within 100 to 150 yards, that 357 mag, and 454 casull will do the job on most anything.
and I have the option of shooting lighter loads, 38 special, and 45 Colt.
 
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