Go/NoGo

patrickd

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I hate to ask this question because it makes me feel like a dumbass, but will someone please explain to me how go/no go guages work? I know they are for headspacing barrels, but have never done it and want to know how to use them for checking headspace on an old M96 Sweedish Mauser.
Thanks.
 
Headspace - LONG

GO/NO-GO headspace gauges are used at the factory, or when replacing a barrel or bolt. For checking the safety of a used gun, a gauge called the Field Gauge is fine. FWIW, I have found 100% of the Swedish Mausers I have checked to be OK for headspace, as they were given good care and rebarrelled when necessary. I wouldn't worry too much about it unless you see some sign of excess headspace, like case stretching.

This may help in describing just what is involved:

To begin with, the "head" of a cartridge is its base or back end. That's why the markings on the back of the cartridge case are called the "headstamp".

So, headspace is simply the space for the "head" of the cartridge. In a rimmed cartridge, this is obvious, but for all cartridges, it really is a measurement of the room for a cartridge from the bolt face to whatever stops and supports it in the chamber. For rimmed cartridges, that is the front of the rim; for belted cartridges, it is the front of the belt. For cartridges like the .308, measurement is taken from a specified point on the shoulder; for a cartridge like the .45 ACP, the measurement is from a sharp shoulder which abuts the case mouth. So we say that a .308 headspaces on its shoulder, and that a .45 headspaces on its case mouth. For our purpose here, we will assume that the gun is a rifle, but we need to know that headspace is a factor in pistols and revolvers as well.

Some headspace is absolutely necessary; if no tolerance is allowed, operation of the rifle may be difficult or impossible. But while there is a correct point, headspace can be wrong in either direction. If there is insufficient headspace, a cartridge will either be difficult to chamber or will not chamber at all. In combat, this could spell disaster more certainly than excessive headspace.

What problems can result from excessive headspace? The answer is in what happens when a rifle cartridge is fired. The front of the cartridge case is made thin, because it needs to expand to seal the chamber and prevent high pressure gas from coming backward. But that thinness means that under pressure the case will grip the chamber walls very tightly. The rear of the case, being thicker, will not expand, and the pressure will push it backward as far as it can until the breechblock or bolt stops it. The case will stretch. It is nearly impossible to prevent some case stretching; if the gun is to operate normally, there must be some play between the bolt and its locking mechanism. But if the stretching is such that it exceeds the elastic limits of the case material, the case will tear apart. At best, this will leave the front part of the case in the chamber and hang up the gun. At worst, high-pressure gas will be released into the system and possibly damage the gun or injure the shooter.

Why are there measurements needed? Why are two measurements necessary? Why not make every chamber of every gun to the exact dimensions required?

The answer involves the nature of machine work. Chambers are reamed with a tool called (surprise!) a reamer. If only one rifle were to be made, it would be possible to make a reamer to the exact dimensions and it would cut an exact chamber. But in mass production, it doesn't work that way. The designer of a cartridge specifies certain tolerances, based on his knowledge and, to some extent, the anticipated use. When a reamer is made to cut chambers for that cartridge, the reamer is made to the outside tolerance, or the largest allowable size. As chambers are cut, the reamer wears, and when it becomes dull, it is sharpened. This continues until the chamber is at the smallest allowable point, when the reamer is discarded and a new one used.

This system introduces one element of variation in chambers. The other is simple wear. When a rifle fires, the pressure generated inside the cartridge case pushes back the case, which then pushes back the bolt, which then pushes on the locking seats in the receiver. After while, the bolt lugs and the receiver wear enough from this pressure, combined with the friction of normal operation, that the bolt can move more than desirable under pressure, and we say that headspace has become excessive.

Now, remember that reamer that was used to cut chambers? Well, it is not the only reamer involved. Reamers also cut the chambers on tools used to manufacture ammunition, and they are used and sharpened the same way, so the size of the ammunition can vary. Reloaders use sizing dies that are also made by reamers, and those reamers are made and used the same way.

When a rifle barrel is made it is either not chambered at all, or given a "short" chamber. The former barrels are often bought by gunsmiths to be used to build rifles for custom cartridges. The latter are used where the final caliber is known, but it is desirable to adjust headspace after installation of the barrel and selection of a bolt. Two gauges (or gages) are used at the factory or by gunsmiths to ensure that the chamber and bolt are within specifications for the cartridge. These are called the "GO" and "NO-GO" gauges. Their use must be understood in terms of the tolerances of the cartridges that the rifle will use.

The GO gauge ensures that the rifle will close and operate with the longest cartridge that is within tolerances for the ammunition. The NO-GO gauge ensures that the shortest cartridge that is within tolerances will not be allowed to stretch far enough to exceed the elastic limits of the case material.

But we mentioned that normal use of the rifle will cause changes in the dimensions of the locking system and the locking seat(s) in the receiver. That fact led to the development of a simple "one gauge" test to ensure that the rifle has not become dangerous. This test is by use of a FIELD gauge. A rifle that accepts a FIELD gauge may be nearing, at, or past the danger point; the only way to know which is by knowledge of that rifle, or by the "feel" of the gauge. At best, failure of the FIELD gauge test delivers a warning, like the wear ridges on tires. At worst, it signals certain danger. Even a rifle that fails the FIELD gauge test may function normally with cartridges at the long end of the cartridge tolerance, yet be dangerous with cartridges at the short end.

The term "FIELD gauge" should not be taken to mean "the field" in a military sense. No one calls "time out" in battle to check soldiers' rifles with a FIELD gauge. In this sense, FIELD simply means any place outside the factory, such as a depot or a visit by an ordnance inspection team.

Another point of concern is how long a normal rifle will last, in terms of rounds fired, before headspace needs to be checked. For most shooters, the answer is, "Don't worry about it." The fact is that most rifle owners will never live long enough to see their rifles develop excess headspace. But in military service, especially in "familiarization" firing, rifles wear out rapidly, and headspace checks are routinely carried out. Match shooters too, who often fire tens of thousands of rounds a year, will check headspace every few months.

In most cases, headspace should be checked every five thousand rounds, just to be on the safe side. But the reality is that barrels will usually wear out before headspace becomes a problem, and many match rifles have had several barrel replacements with the same receiver and bolt. Since a new barrel will be final chambered on the rifle, the headspace will always be reset at the time of barrel replacement.

Jim
 
headspace guages

Thanks Jim,
I guess I understand the headspace issue.
What I think I want to know is how the no/ go guage works. The go guage simply takes the place of a cartridge and will allow the bolt to close on it, thus assuring there is enough headspace to operate with all milsurp or current factory loadings. I am not a gunsmith and have never rebarreled anything other than my 870 pump shotgun so I am ignorant about just how the no go measures whether there is excessive headspace. Could you please explain that to me?
Thanks again
 
The NO-GO gage doesn't measure for "excessive headspace." It ensures that the headspace is within tolerances for a new/rebuilt gun. If the bolt closes on a NO-GO, the headspace is not within factory tolerances for a new gun, but the NO-GO itself won't determine if the headspace is "excessive" or not.

I have compared the GO/NO-GO gauges to a tire company specs for tread depth. You buy new tires and the factory spec for tread depth is, say, .27"-.28". But if you drive a while and the depth is .26", that doesn't mean the tire is worn out or dangerous; it is still almost brand new, yet it no longer meets factory-new standards.

As I said, the NO-GO ensures that the shortest cartridge that is within tolerances will not be allowed to stretch far enough to exceed the elastic limits of the case material.

A FIELD REJECT gauge is used to check headspace on a used rifle. Even failure with that gauge does not mean the rifle is automatically unsafe, as it might be OK with cartridges on the long side.

Jim
 
headspace

I see said the blind man.
Thankyou for explaining that to me. So theoretically if I had a full length sized case and the bolt closed with a very slight resistance on it it would be safe to assume that my headspace would be almost optimal as there would obviously be no excessive space issues since there was a slight resistance and since it wasn't forced closed in any way as to change shoulder dimensions then there is sufficent headspace. Correct?
 
"... full length sized case and the bolt closed with a very slight resistance on it it would be safe to assume that my headspace would be almost optimal..." Nope. A case will tell you nothing. There's tolerance in them too. Only a proper guage will tell you if the rifle's headspace is within tolerance.
"...it might be OK with cartridges on the long side..." Depends on the cartridge. A long case won't mean squat in a cartridge that doesn't headspace on the shoulder. Rimmed or belted cases for example. Even on a rimless case, if the bolt closes on a Field, the headspace is excessive. Yo umight get away with fire forming the cases, but as soon as you resize them your headspace problem is back.
 
I didn't address headspace in rimmed or belted cases to any extent because the question was about a Swedish Mauser in 6.5x55. The rules are still the same, though.

It is a false assumption that you can get away with excess headspace with a rimmed case if you only fireform. The case may fill out the chamber and give the illusion of safety, but if the headspace is excessive enough, the case head can still blow out and destroy the rifle or injure the shooter.

To see this, consider an exaggerated situation with, say, an SMLE, where the locking lugs are so worn that the case sticks out of the chamber by 1/2 inch. Even if you were able to get a case that would reach the chamber shoulder while its base is at the bolt face, the unsupported part of the case would still let go. So, don't depend on myths like fireforming cases to make up for excess headspace. That myth can get "busted" the hard way.

Jim
 
headspace

Thanks Jim,
I wasn't even thinking of trying to fireform a case to allieviate excessive headspace. A 6.5X55 headspaces on the shoulder, right? It's not a straight walled case or a belted case. So my point was if I took a full length sized case it should suffice as a guage good enough to determine whether the rifle was safe to fire. I realize the only proper way would be to buy and use a set of guages, but I was only theorizing when I posted the question.
 
little something to think about

Unless you have a gauge to check the resized brass with to make sure it is in spec, how would you know if you set the shoulder back properly? I use a gauge to check my brass with to make sure it is set back properly. No matter what kind of condition you think the resized case is in, if the rim doesn't sit flush or below with the gauge, the shoulder isn't set back properly. Don't be fooled into using just a resized case to check headspace with because you can reload all day long and the case not be set back right. I know because I did it once myself and had to pull all of the bullets and deprimed the cases as well because someone moved the lockring and changed my setup without me realizing it. It was a bad joke played on me by my brother, but it taught me a lesson all the same.

I do use a properly resized case when I want a tight chamber and am going for extreme accuracy, but for a normal rebarrel job, I use a GO and No-Go guage to make sure each case put in it will chamber correctly. If it is a gun that comes in and needs to be checked, the best way to check it is to use the SAMMI gauges.
 
Thanks Harry

It sure is good to have you back Harry. I tried to send you a PM the other day and it said you weren't taking them. I was wandering about whether or not you rifle your own barrels or not when you build your blackpowder rifles?

Sorry about the hijack.
 
Sorry to have been "out of the loop" for a couple of days. While I have used factory cartridges as a "quick and dirty" headspace check, cartridges are not gauges. Remember what I said about cartridge making dies and reloading dies being made to tolerances the same way as rifle chambers. If the tolerances "stack" the wrong way, there can still be a problem.

Jim
 
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