Go/no go gauge rental experience

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Colorado Redneck

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I made a command decision (and asked the wife for permission) to rebarrel and rechamber a savage 12. Rather than fork over $75 for gauges I will probably use a couple times if I'm lucky, renting seems like a good option. Do any members here have experience or reccomendations for a business that rents gauges?
 
While I agree rent the reamer, the gauge can be simplified down to one.

Get the GO, add tape to the back if you want field reject variation.

I find mine come in handy from time to time
 
"...Go/no go gauge..." You need the right one. They're called head space gauges. Along with 4D, Pacific Tool and Gauge rents 'em.
What cartridge are you going to? The diameter of the bolt is important too. So is the action length.
So is having the correct tools. Starting with a good solid work bench. Some Savage rifles are easier than others, but you may need a barrel vise and proper action wrench depending on the thing's age.
There's a reasonable how-to here.
https://forum.snipershide.com/threads/savage-rebarrel-lessons-learned.182207/
 
Thanks!

4D Reamer Rentals looks like the best outfit. Thanks for the help Scorch and Nodak!

T O'heir, thanks for the info. I have a Wheeler nut wrench,
an action vise, a good work bench, a bench vise, torque wrench. Changing from 22-250 to 204 Ruger. So short action. The magazine is not used as this rifle is always single shot. Replaced a Savage barrel successfully about 6 yrs ago, and it worked great. Numrich has the 223 Savage bolt head in stock. Thanks for the video link! If I encounter an obstacle I'll be here on TFL asking for help. Jim at Northland Shooters Supply gave me some tutoring before.

I am on my 3rd 204 Ruger, and have enjoyed all of them. 22-250 wears me down with the muzzle blast and recoil. It seems I never get tired using a 204. So, this barrel swap will give me a pair of Savages in 204.

Thanks again, for your willingness to help out.
 
RC20--I did that tape trick last rebarrel. Just bought the go gauge. It worked fine. Good suggestion, as either gauge or both can be rented. I figured that both gauges would be rented together. Saving $5 is good.
 
Colorado,
I'll agree with everyone so far on 4D.
Decent price, quick shipping, sharp reamers, good customer service!
Just make sure your ready to do it at the time you order.
Rental is for 1 week.
I know you don't have to, but i e-mail the tracking # when i ship back.
 
If it wasn't a 204 Ruger I'd loan you a set. I have gages in .223, .222 RM, and .308, the .222 RM might work but I don't know for sure. Someone with more knowledge than me can let you know for sure. I know some people use the parent cartridge go-gage for improved cartridges but you might be better off just renting.
 
I've used 4D and Pacific.
Pacific has better communication, but they don't seem to inspect the tools very well upon return or before shipping. I've been shipped two different crown cutter 'sets' that had broken, dull, chipped, or missing pieces. Luckily, those issues never impacted my own use of the tools, however. So, my only involvement was notifying Pacific that that tool had X issue(s), upon receipt.

4D is good, and I've never had a problem. I'm sure that it happens, but I've never had a problem. Always good condition reamers and tools.
But it bugs me slightly that there's no human element in standard transactions. It's like dealing with a vending machine:
Put your money in the robot. Tool shows up in mail. Robot sends an email reminder that your time is limited. Return tool to distant robot by dropping it in a mailbox. Robot says thank you a couple days later.

(I live one shipping day from 4D. So, the tools ship both ways quickly. I have to need the tool before I order it. Otherwise the tool has to be returned before I get to the job. :rolleyes:)
 
If anyone knows for sure if the .222 RM gage set will work for the .204 Ruger please let me know. The compatibility chart on PT&G web site said it was only good for the 6X47 Rem which is why I have them. Other than that I'd say get them from 4D, I've rented from them before and it was easy.
 
I made a command decision (and asked the wife for permission) to rebarrel and rechamber a savage 12. Rather than fork over $75 for gauges I will probably use a couple times if I'm lucky, renting seems like a good option. Do any members here have experience or reccomendations for a business that rents gauges?
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As always I suggest a reloader learn to measure the length of a case from the datum to the case head. I suggest the reloader/smith learn to verify a gage. I suggest the reloader learn the functions of a tool and its abilities.

More times than not I start with a barrel with a short chamber, it must not matter to anyone else but I want to know 'how short?'. I want to know how far I have to ream to complete the chamber.

And I want to know the difference in length between the chamber and case when measured from the shoulder to the bolt face and the shoulder of the case from the shoulder to the case head.

F. Guffey

Head space gages are nice but not necessary.
 
While I agree rent the reamer, the gauge can be simplified down to one.
Get the GO, add tape to the back if you want field reject variation.
I find mine come in handy from time to time
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Why would the go-gage be a better choice? EVENTHOUGH the go gage can be modified to a go-to infinity gage I do not know of a member on any forum that can make the modification.

And then there is the tape; how much tape? and then there is the 'crush factor'.

I do not find it necessary to purchase them I do find the chamber length gage (from the datum to the bolt face) is useful as a transfer and as a standard. There is no substitute for the ability to verify.

F. Guffey
 
F. Guffey said:
Why would the go-gage be a better choice? EVENTHOUGH the go gage can be modified to a go-to infinity gage I do not know of a member on any forum that can make the modification.
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There are probably several dozen who could cut the gauge in half, reface each cut, drill and tap a 1/4-40 hole in each, epoxy a 1/4-40 rod in one end, then wrap a label one half graduated with 25 marks like a mic thimble, then index mark the other half. Calibrate it with a GO gauge then each mark indicates a .0010" change as one half is twisted. A soft tip set screw on the adjustable thimble would hold it in place.

I am not a machinest nor tool and die maker.

Such adjustable headspace gauges were commercially available at one time.
 
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Such adjustable headspace gauges were commercially available at one time.
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I know, I posted information and location of a few that were in use but I deliberately altered the mane of the manufacturer; and then there was a rush to "GOOGLE". I was told by searchers they could only find manufacturers of other items under the name furnished.

I have 6 micrometers that would be easier to modify for a different purpose because of the diameter of the gages.. And then there is back to the modifying the go gage, I never knew it could be that complicated.

Such adjustable headspace gauges were commercially available at one time.
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Commercially available: I know all your friends had them but if the tool was common we would still be using them. And then there is RCBS with the the plastic version.

F. Guffey
 
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