Glocked and Cocked and Springs

Shalom

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Is it bad for a Glock to be "cocked" (round in chamber) all the time ,(when carried AND when resting on the nightstand?) Do any springs take a set? Does the recoil spring have to be replaced at a given point, say 2,000 rounds like on a Colt .45?
 
After reading www.glocktalk.com for the last 5 months I have come to the conclusion that Glock recommends not Replacing anything until it fail's.

The parts that will fail on a gloak though are the Trigger Spring, Ejector Plunger Spring, Slide release spring, Striker Spring and recoil rod Spring.

that is a list of all the springs in a glock, I would recommend keeping spares on hand ($20 worth of parts there :) ).

Also replace your Mag Springs on your "Duty" Mags once a year.

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You may be right about not keeping the Glock cocked all the time. I have one of the earlier Glock 17s, circa 1990. To put the gun in the The tupperware, you have to pull the trigger first. Maybe Glock did this to save the springs. But after so many jokers were shooting holes through their boxes, Glock switched to the ones they use now. Personally, I keep my Glock 17 loaded with 16 rounds, down one from full capacity, empty chamber and trigger pulled to relieve tension on the spring. If you hear bump in the night, just rack the slide. If that doesn scare away the goblins, the next sound sure will. I fully loaded one mag for about 8 years before the spring took a set. It still functioned fine except it didn't lock the slide on the last round. Westicle was right. Don't replace what aint broken. Glocks are rock solid.

[This message has been edited by Icopy (edited July 11, 2000).]
 
I keep my G19 with one in the chamber in the night stand full time. No problems here. I guess if you are worried about the spring going bad use the procedure that Icopy uses.

I think the gun will be ok either way. These Glocks arent eggshells. They are built pretty well.

My guess is the old tupperware box was designed more for people not putting a chambered gun into box than spring life.
 
I love my Glock 23, but I have had problems with the springs. I haven't put that many rounds through it (I'm guessing around 2000), but I've already had to replace mag springs and the slide spring.

I also periodically pull out the mag springs and stretch them. I'm not sure this is the greatest idea in the world, but it beats having loose springs or buying new ones every few months.
 
First, thanx to all for feedback.
Branrot- I suggest you rotate magazines. I carry 2 and have 2 others resting. I rotate them monthly and have had no problems (but I own a set of spare springs if the need should ever arise.)"stretching" sounds like stretching it a bit to me. ;)
Peace
 
Branrot - The worst thing you can do to a spring short of heating it is to stretch it.More than likely you are exceding its ( rated for the metal) modulus of elasticity which will definetly cause it to fail.This is related to bending a paper clip many times before it breaks in two.A spring is far more brittle because of the heat treatment it under goes so it can be damaged by just one stretch.If you are worried about your spring life just under load it by one round. I have mags that work perfectly after being fully loaded for over 15 years.
 
I've never had any springs but mag springs get weak. I've heard of the plastic recoil spring rod breaking in some models, (mostly the two-piece rods). I use steel rods, so that isn't a problem. I change recoil springs so much that I haven't had any problems with bad recoil springs.
 
From what I have read on Glock Talk and a number of Glock websites is that the pistol is not "cocked" when a round is loaded in the chamber by racking the slide. The mechanics of this pistol are un like anything else prvious invented.

Pulling the trigger actually cocks and release the hammer. Therefore this is probably the only true DAO. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Speaking of racking, I have to go rack my wort to the secondary fermenter. Gotta go . . .
 
Replace your trigger spring when you replace your recoil spring. You probably don't need to, but the spring is so cheap, and the replacement so easy, that there's no good reason to take the chance. Not like on a Beretta 92, (that trigger spring is a pain) but I digress. I don't know the official, factory-recommended interval for replacing the Glock recoil spring. The 9mm could probably go 4,000 or more rounds, though I assume that the heavier calibers would be harder on springs. You can just test it. With the trigger depressed, point the muzzle straight up, and very gently allow the slide to close on an empty chamber. If it closes all the way, your recoil spring is fine. If it doesn't, then you need a new recoil spring. When the Glock is "cocked" it isn't really cocked. It's about 1/3 cocked.

I don't see any benefit to rotating magazines. A magazine spring is not like a pitcher's arm; it doesn't regain strength after a few days of rest. When it takes a set, it takes a set. Use it as intended, and when it falls out of spec, replace it.
 
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