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OK. The last two gun enthusiasts I spoke to about Glocks won't have anything to do with them because they say there's a high rate of accidents among their owners because of the trigger mechanism. What's the truth here? Do these things go off in people's pockets or am I getting a line of horsesh--?

One other question: Regarding this Glock fingerprint system where every new Glock is somehow fingerprinted and if used to commit a crime, its "fingerprint" is on record with the FBI; can someone explain this in detail to me?

Still new to the handgun world but wanting to make a decision soon as to what I should buy. Reading all the ravings about the Glock 19 makes me want to get one tonight.

Sigurd
 
Sigurd, I Own Glocks, Rugers, and 1911's and I can tell you the Glock is the safest in my opinion.
the fact is a Glock will not go off unless you pull the trigger simple as that..you can drop it..in fact the FBI dropped it out of helicopters, used them to drive nails and it would not go off....IF you are STUPID enough to carry it in your pocket unsecured and something in your pocket hung the trigger then yes, it will go off...but nobody here is that dumb ,right?
The Glock has no external safties to hang up, or forget about, a Glock is a gun for the person who wants a good self defense weapon that they can become proficient with without spending a ton of money on...just take a Glock and a 1911 apart and judge for yourself..
BTW, I have fired over 25,000 rounds through my Glocks without a SINGLE problem that wasn't my fault(playing around with wimpy reloads)
I wish I could say that for the 1911 or Rugers...but I can't

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Glock does record the indentations when test firing new units.I can't understand how that might help identify anything but the fact that a Glock fired the bullet.Seems like Glocks have some unknown factor that makes you want to get more than one.I find it hard not to buy a new or used one when the price is right.They are easy to detail strip and clean.They take any kind of weather without permanent damage,and you can bet your life on them when you need to.I have several 19s ( don't know why) and thats my favorite carry gun.The ones that say they are dangerous, etc,should not be carrying in the first place.It's a point and shoot weapon that only goes BANG when you pull the trigger.Simple and effective.Buy one ASAP.You'll get to love it.
 
Agree. The Glock is without a doubt the most reliable, practical, and safest handgun ever made.

Yes, there are no external "safeties". Pull the trigger and it shoots. So what is the difference between that and a DA revolver? None. Pull the trigger and it shoots. Even a little kid knows that.

I have a G17 and G19. Hope to get a G34 and G26 someday. My favorite is the G19. Perfect size and caliber for all around personal and home defense.

That said, I think SA autos are cool for target and competition but not everyday PD. Love to get a Browning HP someday.
 
Yep....its a load of bunk! Glocks are awesome. Funny thing about guns though, if you put your finger on the trigger and squeeze they tend to go off. I know thats a shock to some people out there. With glocks you have those who know and clowns who don't. A few clowns never makes a circus. Wishbone is right such people should not be carrying anyway. Get a Glock and be one of the people who know.
 
Glocks are good, but if you want something far better get a SIG Sauer. If you want a compact 9mm consider a SIG Sauer P225 or P239. If you want something just a tad taller than a Glock 19 than a P228 is the ticket. Try them out on a range side by side and get the pistolt that you like best not what someone else likes.

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So many pistols, so little money.
 
The last two tactical classes I have taken -

One was all Glocks, Another was 60%
Glocks. Another was mixed but I know
the Guys and they are all these IPSC dudes
and can't get away from the 1911.
 
HaHaHaHa, {sniker}, Haha HAHAHA!

Safety Check Glock

Load Glock

Finger out of trigger, use as hammer. Throw it across the room.

Still alive!!!

If you break the 4 Laws of firearms, they can and will bite you....

As Daddy always said... Son, you gotta be smarter than the shovel...

Buy the Glock and Laugh when you out shoot the idiots at the range with it...

Finger Prints? Haven't rifled barrels been doing this for years? True, Glocks are tougher cause of the barrel style. So What! You rob alot of 7-11's on the weekend, this would be a factor... Otherwise, go for it... (grin)

HTH
 
Anyone dumb enough to put a Glock in their pocket without a holster that covers the trigger guard deserves what they get.

The only way a Glock will go off is if you pull the trigger. Take an NRA Basic Pistol class or similar training.

The "fingerprinting" stuff is a database of 1) the marks on the cartridge case left by the chamber, extractor, ejector, and 2) the marks on the bullet left by the barrel. Unless you're planning on committing a crime, I can't say as I would be too worried about it.

If you are still worried about it, replace the barrel, extractor, and ejector.

Jared
 
First, most Glock rumors are false. They're generally spread by the "clueless" to the unknowing. So disregard them.

Glock's are safe. They do not go off by themselves. They do not spontaneously explode...

The rule is simple:

Finger ON trigger = Safety OFF

Finger OFF trigger = Safety ON

Keep your chambered Glock in a rigid holster that fully encloses the triggerguard. (such as Leather, Kydex)

Do not stuff a chamber loaded Glock into your waistband without it being in a rigid holster that fully encloses the triggerguard.

Do not carry around a chamber loaded Glock unless its kept in a rigid holster that fully encloses the triggerguard, otherwise an accidental discharge could possibly occur.

Use common sense.

Do not shoot LEAD reloads through your Glock.
If you want to shoot LEAD reloads, buy an after market barrel with conventional rifling.

Follow those guidelines, and Glocks are safe.

A gun is only as safe as the common sense of the person holding it.
 
Glock is 100% based on passive safety systems. They are safe until your finger is in the trigger housing, then it's hot. That's the only thing to remember. The .40 have unsupported chambers at the 6 o'clock position, and that's the only one that usually goes kb! Read a little bit and you will see that the glock went kb! on someone here in the forum in the .357Sig. I think that was an ammo related issue, not a glock one. I find that a Steyr should be safer than a glock, because it has the same passive safeties as a glock, but has additional external safeties as well if you so desire to use them.

Glocks "fingerprint" your gun by putting a few rounds through it, and checking the "signature" on the bullet and casing made by the gun.

I think if you got a new firing pin and new barrel from someone other than Glock, this will solve the fingerprinting problem.

Albert
 
I've owned 6 (still have 3) and never a jam in umpty-thousand rounds. I'll tell you the truth: I was a reluctant convert to the "Cheap, plastic, safetyless, hijacker's pistol" and was VERY careful to always keep my finger indexed against the front of the triggerguard whenever handling this 'dangerous gun'. What a GREAT habit to have fallen into, now that it's become second nature. I feel much safer handling any firearm now, especially loaded ones since six years of Glocks have schooled my finger to STAY THE HECK AWAY FROM THE TRIGGER unless I am actually engaged in sending rounds downrange. Thanks for the safety lesson, Gaston.

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10mm: It's not the size of the Dawg in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!
 
Any gun carried loosely in ones pocket might go off. I dont see why they are trying to focus on Glocks. For some reason people like to bad mouth this gun. "Oooh a mysterious wonder for deep inside the europe...ooh ahh". Its just a practical, no frills, tecnologicly advanced weapon.
 
It is my understanding that the Glock "fingerprint" is of the cartridge case, not the bullet, since recovering test bullets is time consuming and costly.

For many years (since roughly 1929), it has been possible to positively link a fired cartridge case to the weapon that fired it. This is done the same way as bullet identification and depends on the fact that many parts of a gun (extractor, ejector, chamber, firing pin, magazine) mark the case in a way that is unique to that gun. No two markings are alike, hence the comparison to human "fingerprints".

Up to a few years ago, providing test bullets or cases was not practical, since comparison had to be done one at at time, under a microscope. But modern technology has developed methods of rapidly scanning the cases or bullets and entering the data into a computer database (as fingerprints now are), thus making comparison fairly quick and easy.

The comparisons can be defeated by altering the points to be tested (filing the firing pin for example), just as fingerprint identification can be frustrated by mutilating the fingers. Since altering a gun is far less painful, we would expect to see criminals catch on pretty quickly, negating the "gun fingerprint" effort. Another problem I can see is that it may be easier to misdirect police effort or "frame" an innocent person by, say, gathering up cases on a pistol range and scattering them at the scene of a crime.

Many people on both sides of the gun issue seem to forget that even if it is proved that cases or bullets from gun "x" were found at the scene of the crime, prosecutors still have to prove that the accused person fired gun "x". This is usually a lot more difficult.

Jim
 
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