Glock: weird range phenomenon observed

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Rickmeister

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Heollo, fokls: suffrin fromm jte-lag heer. Sorry 'bout the spleling. ;)

Well, I'm finally back. I even had a chance to go to the range yesterday afternoon to put off a few rounds with my G17.

Now here's the rub:

I've practiced many times at 7 and 15 yards. At seven I get a bullseye every time. At fifteen I occasionally hit a little high and left of the mark, and remind myself that I need to tighten my wrist proportionally to bring my aim back in line.

At 25 yards, however, I often get centerline overshots. Tightening and pointing down only makes it worse, with bullets peppering the target almost at random. Am I overcompensating, or is this one of those things that are built into the Glock?

My 1911 hits pretty well at 25; but then, it's an entirely different animal. Greater barrel length puts my Kimber Gold Match in a separate camp, so I hesitate to make comparisons.

How do you Glock owners fare with your guns at long distances? Any tips?
 
Sounds to me like you're overcompensating. For me, Glocks are hard to grip consistently because they really don't fit my hand the way my hand seems to think they should. Consequently, moving my trigger finger seems to affect the pressures exerted by the rest of my hand. Have you tried making sure only the pad of your trigger finger contacts the trigger instead of the first joint?

Also have you tried using a firm two handed grip, perhaps reinforcing it with a bunch of dry firing, to see if that makes any difference? It's either you, the ammo, or the pistol, so until you can eliminate yourself as the problem, assume you are.

If you don't have a laser sight, have you tried attaching a laser pointer (rubber bands or something) and dry firing to see if your grip is getting tangled up with your pulling the trigger?

The centerline overshots wouldn't bother me at this point because the 9mm climbs above the line of sight within those ranges. However if tightening your grip and pointing down makes it worse, I'd check your grip as above....
 
I think it may just be a transition problem. I shoot Hi-Powers normally and my groups with a Glock will be nice and tight - and about 1" left at 7yds and going further left the more the distance increases.

I had the same issue when I had been shooting my Glock as my primary for six months while my Hi-Power got worked on. I started out hitting left with the Glock and was convinced the sights needed adjusting until a regular Glock shooter came up and preceeded to drill the target dead center. I decided to concentrate on form and after a month or two I was hitting dead-on with the Glock; but when my Hi-Power came back I couldn't hit a thing with it at first.

I haven't really investigated the issue further; but I've noted at least some people have difficulties transitioning between 1911/BHPs to Glocks and vice versa besides myself.
 
Blackhawk:

I'll work on my grip. I had considered the laser sight option, but I'd better eliminate myself as the cause before taking on the extra gear (and expense).

Bartholomew:

You're probably right. Getting back in touch with one's Glock is not a charm when you've been shooting a 1911 for a long while. But practice makes perfect---or, as my CHL instructor once said: "Good practice makes perfect. Bad practice makes im-perfect." I'll work on the good.
 
There is a "glock transition" effect that most new glock shooters experience. Just need to focus on basics (grip and trigger press) a bit more and things will quickly settle down. Note that this extra effort will help your shooting of other handguns as well.
 
Nuther thought. If it is all vertical.

Some load/gun combinations that are dead on at 7 shoot high at 25. Then maby you are crunching it tryin to compensate.

Relax, do your thng. A mid sternum shot that goes two inches high is still a sturnam shot. And good.

Sam
 
Rickmeister,

Don't get me wrong. I don't have or advocate laser sights, but they are good for checking your form. However, they're not any better than just using rubber bands and folded paper to attach a cheapo laser pointer to the side of your pistol. Shim and wiggle it around until it's lined up with your sights at the appropriate distance, and then practice dry firing. If you're aiming at the door knob but the light switch gets lit up while you're pulling the trigger, guess what?
 
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