Glock, Steyr and Springfield armoryXD(HS2000)

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grindliner

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Just curious about peoples satisfaction with the Steyr M series and SA's XD (aka HS2000)? I had a Glock 17, Sold it after 3 weeks, due to the size of my hand (too big) I am most intrested in how the trigger feels compared to the glock. I bought the glock because I love that trigger action. I know I could always get a second gen w/ straight front strap, but I want new, not used.
 
Have a Steyr M9 and love it. Trigger reset is shorter than glock. I like it better than my glock 19. About 2K rounds without problem (well, occasionally a case bounces off my forehead).
 
If you have small hands (like I do) the why don't you go for the G19!! Same as the G17, only a little bit smaller!!! :)

The only thing I know about the HS2000 is, now that Springfield has taken it over, they are way over priced!!! It fits ok, but at $500 a copy, it just ain't worth it!!! ;)

Currently, Styer is toast!!! They are looking for a new home!!! Until they get their problems worked out, parts, mags,etc. will be hard to find!! I would find myself a nice G19, or G26!!!:D
 
Hs2000 is very nice for the price, the Xd will be more expensive but Springfield should stand behind them if any problems crop up.
Don't really know if Steyr parts are hard to find or not. Haven't needed them or called the importer GSI to see about parts or repair. CDNN has Steyr mags for $25.
JohnBoy
 
You should also look at the Walther P99. With the interchangable backstraps and multiple trigger configurations you may never look at a Styer or Springfield again.:D
 
Denfoote: Marko here. How've you been, bud? Mak collection still growing by leaps and bounds? Mine's kind of plateaued for now, but at $109 for unissued Bulgies, that could change in a heartbeat... :D

Anyway, as much as you and I agree on Makarovs, I've got to once again disagree with you concerning the HS2000/Springfield XD. If you're finding them currently priced at $500+, you're shopping in the wrong place. I've seen them going anywhere from $399 to $429 for the XD, and significantly less for the HS2000 (when you can find any that haven't been snatched up).

As far as the HS/XD being a Glock copy, nothing could be further from the truth --- as explained in numerous other threads on this board. Significant internal differences, and numerous differences in features (not to mention the obvious ergonomic differences).

And as for the Springfield version being way over priced, I've always maintained that the HS2000 was a $600 gun at a $300 price. At $400, the Springfield is still an excellent value.

Don't let anyone con you into believing the quality isn't there. That notion is patently false (as the 6000+ rounds without a single failure in my HS would tend to support). The gun is robustly built, yet exceedingly comfortable. It's exceptionally reliable and posesses excellent accuracy. And it comes with a ton of features and safety items found (and sometimes not found) on the much more expensive pistols.

If the HS/XD is a good fit for a prospective buyer, then it should definitely go on that person's list of quality pistols for possible purchase.

I'll say it again, $400 for a Springfield XD is a good value.

Take care bud. Marko
 
My problem is that I have a huge hand, I am currently considering an H&K, but looking at other alternatives, I love the feel of the Sig 226, but hate the trigger. the walther may be an option, I'll take a look.

A couple more questions:

1. are the rear slide rails on the HS2K/XD still polymer? I have heard this is the only bad thing to be found on it.

2.Would you trust your life to an HS2K/XD or your steyr


also CDNN has been advertising new Steyr M9's and M40's for $369 fpr the last month in Shotgun News.
 
Grindliner:

The rails of the HS2000 have never been polymer. Actually they're one of the pistol's great features --- massive, heat-treated steel, molded into the polymer frame. The entire pistol appears to be over-engineered in this manner.

As for trusting my life to my HS2000: Absolutely, positively, without hesitation.

Take care. Marko
 
Ditto Marko's comments.

The HS/XD is a wonderful pistol. You should try one if possible.

And it's not overpriced even at $500. When it came out it was underpriced.

Tony
 
Originally Posted by Grindliner
I am most interested in how the trigger feels compared to the glock.
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Since the HS/XD is a true S/A only pistol, the trigger is a little sweeter than the 2/3 cocked Glock's. The trigger pull is also slightly lighter (4 lb. vs. 5 lb.)

Would you trust your life to an HS2K/XD or your steyr?
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I own close to 2 dozen autos, yet I chose two to be kept loaded and ready to go in the instant safe next to my bed. My Walther P-99 .40, and my HS2000. When I hear a bump in the night, 9 times out of 10, I grab the HS. Answer your question?

defoote buddy,
Occasionally, folks have to agree to disagree on an issue. The value of the XD is one of those issues. Personally, as a owner of the HS, I consider an XD for $400 - $425 to still be underpriced (but don't tell Springfield). Haven't had a lot of time lately with the Holidays and all, but as soon as I can, I'm tracking down an XD .40. If it proves to be as good as my 9mm, I'll be adding a .357 SIG as soon as they're available.
 
Actually, the rear rails on the HS2000 (and I assume the XD) ARE polymer. The front rails are the huge, sturdy steel ones.

That said, I really don't think it makes a difference. My HS2000 is my HD pistol, and I'm confident it'll work when I need it.

-f&l
 
Fearandloathing: You are correct. I skimmed the original post to quickly before composing my reply. I missed the word "rear". Thanks for the correction.

And for what it's worth, the rear rails on my HS show virtually no wear -- even after 6000+ rounds. I'm not concerned about their polymer construction.

Take care. Marko
 
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