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branrot

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There was a posting not too long ago about factory glock drop free mags that failed to drop free, even when empty.

Anyway, I was at a gun show this weekend at the Glock armourer's booth, and I was thinking about the question. Fortunately, some cop walks up and tells the guy he's having the same problem with his G21. He tested it, and low and behold the empty mag wouldn't drop out without any help.

Anyway, the armourer changed out the magazine spring, and all was fixed. Turns out his old spring had lost some of it's spring. I tried this with my G23, and it worked!
 
So the mags don't actually "drop" free, rather they're pushed out by the follower pressing on the slide lock?

Learn something new every day. :)
 
I have a G23, bought it back in '92 with two 13 round magazines. No matter what the empty mags will not drop free when empty, they have a slight bulge in them. Back when I was more nieve, I even tried fixing them myself by pinching them in a vice (I'm much smarter now), but it didn't work. (luckily no damage)

I was later told by a Glock armorer that the earlier Glocks were built purposefully NOT to drop the magazines. It wasn't till later that the american market and the standards of combat and competition shooters demanded that the magazines drop free in the Glocks

Years later I bought new factory 10 round
magazines and they drop easy.
 
Clarance, are you sure that your 13 round mags are not the Non Drop Free Magazines that Glocks initially came with? You know, the ones without the steel inserts in the side that keep the sides of the mag from bulging out when the magazine is loaded, therefore keeping a full mag from dropping free if the mag release is accidentally activated.
 
Sounded like Clarence was saying, in pretty plain English, that his earlier mags were NFML (commonly called non-drop free) mags. All Glock mags have steel liners. NFML mags have steel lining on three sides; FML mags have steel lining on all four sides.
 
Yes, they are the non drop free mags, they have the steel lining on all four sides. I didn't notice that at first. They will not drop free even when the magazines are full. They're pretty tough too.
 
It was my understanding that "drop free" refers to the magazine dropping free when fully or partially loaded (due to the bulging of the rounds inside the mag). I thought that both FML and NFML mags were supposed to drop free when empty. It doesn't make much sense since my understanding of the idea of the NFML mags is to retain them after firing. Is this correct?
 
Clarence:

The NFML mags have a round cut above the witness holes at the rear of the mag; FML's have a square cut. If you have metal on all four sides, then you have FML. They still might not drop free, however.
 
Alright, now I'm getting confused,

My magazines have the square cut at top, and have steel on all four sides. So that would make them FML's? But they don't drop free, they stick good when halfway out of the grip (and they never will drop free). Were the magazines I have actually engineered to drop out, and just don't because of some flaw?

As I look closer, right between the 12rnd and 13rnd witness holes, and above the imprinted Glock logo, is the number "2828", does that help or mean anything signifigant?
 
As a long time Glockphile, I can tell you two things with a high level of certainty:

(1) FML mags can/do stick in some magwells - even with Armorall...

(2) Do NOT rely on the magspring's tension to "push" the mag out of the well - shooting to slidelock would cause problems, no?
 
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