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Regarding some recent threads on Glock. While everything that has been said about it is true, consider this:
The Glock has no safety. If you work in Law enforcement or have CCW and have it taken away from you, under any circumstances, all the criminal has to do is pull the trigger. Like the old 38 special revolvers. Read articles by Massad Ayoob, for instance in September 1990 issue of _Guns_ magazine and in many other articles. He documents how cops had their weapons taken away from them but weren't killed because their S&W, Sigs, etc were carried on safe. And also what happened in the instances where deparment mandated off-safe carry. Glock is an easy gun to fire. It is both a bonus and a liability. All you have to do is pull the trigger. That is all the criminal has to do.
Further problems with lack of safety is that if you shove it in your wasteband ("Mexican" carry) and something gets in the way, like the belt buckle, keys or whatever and pulls the trigger, it *will* go off. This is not mere speculation. There are documented cases of this happening as well (agains, see Massad Ayoob). I think about a 115 grain JHP cruising down my leg or pelvic bone at supersonic speeds and I shudder. I want something safer. I want something idiot-proof.
Think about the fact that under real stress, your fine motor skills will disappear and you might do something stupid, like re-holster it with trigger on the finger or accidently pull the trigger while aiming at someone. A 1911A1, while not my choice, is a far safer handgun due its non-trigger related safeties, the muzzle safety, the grip safety, cocked and locked safety or hammer down ways of carrying it.
This does not deny that the Glock is a great weapon with a lot of loyal followers, however, they sometimes tend to underestimate the problems with it and just don't see any faults in it whatsoever. It is a cheaply manufactured polymer-frame pistol. Price is certainly a big factor in its popularity especially with big contracts. I think that HK P7 (or any other HK) is a far better pistol, more accurate, more safe but it is also 3 times as expensive which ensures that it will never become popular.
When the Glock comes out with a new generation of pistols that have redundant slide or frame safeties in addition to the trigger safety, I will probably buy one. It is the first step in the right direction. I think that Glock is like the Broomhandle Mauser of the 21 century polymer pistols, it is a first, and more of a success than failure but needs improvements with regard to safety.
The Glock has no safety. If you work in Law enforcement or have CCW and have it taken away from you, under any circumstances, all the criminal has to do is pull the trigger. Like the old 38 special revolvers. Read articles by Massad Ayoob, for instance in September 1990 issue of _Guns_ magazine and in many other articles. He documents how cops had their weapons taken away from them but weren't killed because their S&W, Sigs, etc were carried on safe. And also what happened in the instances where deparment mandated off-safe carry. Glock is an easy gun to fire. It is both a bonus and a liability. All you have to do is pull the trigger. That is all the criminal has to do.
Further problems with lack of safety is that if you shove it in your wasteband ("Mexican" carry) and something gets in the way, like the belt buckle, keys or whatever and pulls the trigger, it *will* go off. This is not mere speculation. There are documented cases of this happening as well (agains, see Massad Ayoob). I think about a 115 grain JHP cruising down my leg or pelvic bone at supersonic speeds and I shudder. I want something safer. I want something idiot-proof.
Think about the fact that under real stress, your fine motor skills will disappear and you might do something stupid, like re-holster it with trigger on the finger or accidently pull the trigger while aiming at someone. A 1911A1, while not my choice, is a far safer handgun due its non-trigger related safeties, the muzzle safety, the grip safety, cocked and locked safety or hammer down ways of carrying it.
This does not deny that the Glock is a great weapon with a lot of loyal followers, however, they sometimes tend to underestimate the problems with it and just don't see any faults in it whatsoever. It is a cheaply manufactured polymer-frame pistol. Price is certainly a big factor in its popularity especially with big contracts. I think that HK P7 (or any other HK) is a far better pistol, more accurate, more safe but it is also 3 times as expensive which ensures that it will never become popular.
When the Glock comes out with a new generation of pistols that have redundant slide or frame safeties in addition to the trigger safety, I will probably buy one. It is the first step in the right direction. I think that Glock is like the Broomhandle Mauser of the 21 century polymer pistols, it is a first, and more of a success than failure but needs improvements with regard to safety.