Glock out of battery

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Khornet

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After some recent threads on Glock Kbs from OOB firing, I checked this on my G22. Empty, I cannot keep it out of battery, but with a cartridge in the chamber--dropped in, not picked up by the slide-- if I don't let the slide slam forward it WILL stop short of battery and only a brisk whack will drive it home. It looks as if the cause is the extractor, whcih is very stiffly sprung.

So. How 'bout polishing the extractor?
Does the Glock feed the rim into the extractor as the round is stripped from the mag? Don't have mine with me.

Oh, and still no matter what, I can't get it to fire out of battery, tested with a dummy round of course.
 
Don't ever load your semi-auto pistol that way. Dropping a cartridge in the chamber and dropping the slide on it causes the extractor to slam into the cartridge and cause undue wear on the extractor. The extractor is an essential part of your gun. Don't break it by loading your gun improperly. Your gun was not designed to be loaded that way. Always let the slide strip the cartridge from the magazine.
 
Browning type tilting barrel actions have extractors that CAN pop over a case head, but don't normally function this way and this process does induce wear. The only reason the gun doesn't have a fixed extractor is to allow you to clear jams.

Beretta 92s, P7s, PPKs and the like have extractors that pop over the case head every time the weapon cycles. No problem on those designes.

The out of battery test you mention is a bit much. The out of battery I've talked about is when the action has closed, but the slide hasn't traveled fully forward. This is still an out of battery condition because the time the action spends recoiling while locked together is essential for pressures to drop.
 
Uhh, guys?

Does this mean the Glock is a 'controlled feed' a la Mauser system which picks up the rim in the extractor as

the slide moves forward ?

Plenty of other semiautos, IIRC, force the extractor over the rim just as they go into battery, as in the M1. That's why it's sprung and pivoted. Glock extractor is also sprung and pivoted. Otherwise it could be a fixed part, no?
 
It is essentially controlled feed. It is not a fixed part for the reason I stated: to clear a jam like a failure to extract.

The other group of weapons I mentioned work like an M1 or AR15, the extractor pops over the case rim last.
 
GLock

Ok, thanks for the info, gentlemen. Sundance, don't be so testy. We all agree that with guns as in everything else, there are no dumb questions. You are right in what you said, and I appreciate the advice and took it seriously. But a cranky tone is not the way to get peolpe to listen to your point.
 
I used to drop the slide on ammo in my G30 and G23 until I read that it was bad for it. I have never had a problem with it not locking into battery either. You might want to have it looked at.
 
Khornet,

Not being testy and don't really care if you listen to my point or not. It is your gun, not mine. Just trying to help. If you see me in person, then you will know if I'm testy or not. Kinda hard to tell somebody's mood when you just read what they type. I might have had a grin on my face you know. :D
 
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