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geetarman

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I need some advice from the Glock fans.

I have 4 Glocks. A G21, G19, G17 and G30. The only one I can feel comfortable with for an extended period is the G21.

For the rest, my first shot seems to always go to the target. Subsequent shots are invariably left. My middle finger and trigger finger both get beat up and I know I am flinching. What to do about it is the question.

I shoot a lot of 1911s and Sig P226/229/320 and do not have this problem.

I feel I am probably not shooting them enough to get the callus built back up on my two fingers. Even with range ammo, the pain in my fingers is enough to make me quit after a couple of magazines. The 1911s are a lot heavier as are the Sigs and that probably helps a lot with the trigger issue.

My guns have not been modified but for a lighter trigger in the G21 and the G19.

I had the G19 and G30 at the range this morning and two magazines each was all I could handle.

I have a little callus on my trigger finger and wonder what you folks have experienced with your Glocks.

I hate to put them aside because they are stone cold reliable but the annoyance of the trigger issue may make that my best alternative.

By way of comparison, my P320 is about the same weight as the G19/G30 although a bit larger and I have no issue with that gun.

Looking for some ideas here.

Thanks!
 
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Could you please clarify what you mean when you say "My index finger and trigger finger both..."

Do you not use your index finger as your trigger finger? Are you referring to your opposite hand index finger?

Not being nit picky, just tying to understand :-)
 
My trigger finger gets a callus and the finger next to it gets "slapped" probably by trigger guard. I should have said "middle" finger.

Sorry for the confusion. I went back and edited the post.
 
I had a similar issue with a M&P40 with a bad factory trigger. After about 20rds a small area on my trigger finger would literally get rubbed raw. Because of the trigger I had bad accuracy with it. I have a Walther PPQ .40 m2 right now and the trigger is so nice as well as the ergonomics. I have a slight flinch with it, only when actually firing. It can only be deleted with practice. And mental preparedness
 
Round the trigger guard where it hits your middle finger.


Pull the trigger and note how the trigger safety is still raised--sand it so it's flat with the trigger and smooth the ridges on the G19 trigger.
 
...The only one I can feel comfortable with for an extended period is the G21.
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Same situation here....I have the large beavertail backstrap on my Gen4 21 and it is probably the least ergonomic pistol I own. I can't quite figure it out, yet it works, it shoots dead nuts for me set up this way, and I regularly shoot 200 rounds through it during a typical range session. So I'm not going to mess with it. I'm ready to trade in my Gen3 17 for a Gen4 17 or 34, strictly because I want to put that BT backstrap on a 9mm Glock.
 
You could replace the serrated trigger on the G19 and G30 to a smooth-face like on the G17 and G21, and like suggested, smooth out the trigger guard a bit in the spot where it's rubbing, if you feel so inclined.

Or, perhaps get rid of the Glocks you don't enjoy shooting. I personally love Glocks, but they aren't for everybody. If a different gun fits you better, then no point shooting one that does not. Life is too short for that kind of silliness:p
 
Hi Geetarman,
Now let me start by apologizing if you find any of my remarks as uncomfortable...

I've been an instructor for a while now and one of the areas that seems to rear it's ugly head with new shooters and with seasoned competitors. Trigger Control.

From what I've read here is that you're comfortable with only one of your Glocks, right? One thing I pass on to students and fellow shooters is the physical element of shooting accuracy. One thing you might try with all your firearms is to follow an exact routine. Walk to the firing line, withdraw your weapon from the holster(If no holster, use the 'low ready'..), and stabilize your shooting stance. From the low ready, be conscious of your breathing, your grip, your choice of stance, and get settled.

Give yourself an easy to remember routine so you can replicate it every time.
Bring the weapon up to the target and get a good sight picture, squeeze the trigger.
Be especially conscious of your breathing. You might want to choose a number system to stabilize your breathing. 1. breath in 2. exhale 3. breath in 4. exhale - and so on until you are settled and comfortable.

Think about the process... Breathe, Get a good sight picture, Then on a comfortable exhale, gently squeeze the trigger. If your procedure is good, you should be surprised when the weapon fires. Repeat this for every shot in the magazine. Then repeat it until it becomes second nature, and you can do it in a walking approach to different targets, like shooting USPSA.

I know that this is pretty basic stuff, but sometimes 'getting back to the basics' can be helpful in rebuilding your confidence with every firearm.

I hope I didn't offend you, and I wish you well on getting those other Glocks inline!
Stay safe...
 
I carry Glocks and I use Glocks for home defense. That said, if you have other pistols that don't present the same issue, it might be easier just to use those. You say you have no such issues with your P320. Unless you have some pressing need to use Glocks, you could take the path of least resistance. Otherwise I think there have been some good suggestions here.
 
Trader Jack,

No offense taken. I appreciate any and all advice. I do pretty much everything you suggest. I do not shoot from a holster. It is not allowed at the outdoor public range. As is habit, I carry my guns in a range bag.

The problem I am having is really confined to the 3 Glocks mentioned. I would also say I would experience similar discomfort shooting a Sig P938 with anything other than range ammo. That gun is really small and it is not fun for me for any extended shooting.

The issue is also present for me with a Smith Model 29 IF. . .I am shooting really stout loads. For regular practice, it is a fun gun.

I have looked at some of the mods and I think I am going to try swapping out the trigger and working on the contour of the trigger guard.

My first shot is pretty much where I want it and I am pretty sure more practice will build the callus up. Nothing short of modifying the trigger guard contour will fix the other problem though.

I don't have any other issues with the Glocks and a few shots with the 45 or 9mm is not a problem. Anything more than a couple of magazines is too much where with a 1911 I would be getting in the groove.

I often shoot with an LEO who practices with his duty gun and New York trigger.

I have shot his gun and it is downright painful.

My son has a G30 and he is awesome with it. I bought mine because of him and no doubt about it, it is a great shooter but until I get some things corrected, not much fun.

I do not carry everyday. When I do, it is usually the P320. I want to get to the point where I am as comfortable and confident with the Glocks as I am with the Sig.

Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it.
 
I have a similar problem. I just don't shoot Glocks as well as other pistols. I worked hard to change it but I haven't been able to so far.

I've finally decided to sell my Glock stuff and just shoot the stuff that I shoot well
 
While the fundamentals of pistol are the same: stance, grip, sight picture and trigger control, USPSA is not breath and squeeze, it's grip it and rip it. Most of the top competition shooters in the world also slap the crap out of the trigger. There is no time for anything else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNArf4ayU8
 
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