glock conundrum

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grantman

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Hi all

I recently took the plunge and got my first glock - a gen 4 g19. Intended to use for ccw/range/home. For some reason, I can't get used to the trigger. I've done dry firing drills for a month and put 500 flawless rounds through it without fail. I shoot my 1911s, m9 and hk vp9 markedly better. I wanted to like the gun given its price point, reliability, aftermarket parts, reputation and size. Yet, I can't get around the fact I don't shoot it as well. I put in a ghost connector to see if that would help without much improvement.

So I'm left either continuing to practice and "force" my way into liking this or consider selling as I have other options that I shoot better and can ccw essentially the same.
 
Which ghost connector?

It will never feel the same as a good 1911 trigger, but it can be made to feel decent.

I have ghost tactical triggers installed and lime them, but it is a different beast.

I actually found that i shoot them well, despite not liking the feel i my hand.

Good luck. There is no law that requires glock ownership to be a respected 2nd amendment fan.
 
I recently took the plunge and got my first glock - a gen 4 g19. Intended to use for ccw/range/home. For some reason, I can't get used to the trigger. I've done dry firing drills for a month and put 500 flawless rounds through it without fail. I shoot my 1911s, m9 and hk vp9 markedly better. I wanted to like the gun given its price point, reliability, aftermarket parts, reputation and size. Yet, I can't get around the fact I don't shoot it as well. I put in a ghost connector to see if that would help without much improvement.

So I'm left either continuing to practice and "force" my way into liking this or consider selling as I have other options that I shoot better and can ccw essentially the same.
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if it's not something you're able to get used to, that's OK. Plenty of other guns out there.
 
It is likely to be what you are comparing it to. I moved to Glock after carrying a S&W 642 for several years, and the Glock trigger felt wonderfully light. Comparing it to a decent 1911 would be tough.
 
glocks are an acquired taste. either you like them or not.

maybe rent an SA xd or xds, try a walther ppq, h-k VP9 sig p320 to name a few and see how they feel to you. If you do not like a trigger set up, you will not like to use that gun(MHO)

we use glocks because of the pricing and the fact they work and you do nOT have to remember a safety BUT you do have to be really careful reholstering

good luck
 
boatdoc is right. For gun people when you pick up and use a Glock it is either "right" or not. I have talked to very few experienced individuals who started out hating a Glock and then liked it or vice versa. My first Glock experience was renting a G26 because I had to figure out what all the fuss was about. I didn't really think much when I was holding it until I shot the stupid thing and HAD to have one. Oddly enough the range I rented one did not stock one and it took me a long time to find one. That was several Glocks ago.

Those who have the opposite experience always seem to wonder why anyone would like them.

Its rough to buy a gun and just not like it without good reason. I have had that issue with Smith and Wesson airweights. I like revolvers. They seem like a grand idea. I have owned several but just don't "love" them. I end up keeping a Ruger SP101 instead even though I acknowledge it as a technically "inferior" gun for my use. Still I like it better.
 
If it were me, I would sell it and get something I liked. So many guns out there, no reason to force yourself into liking/tolerating something.
 
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The Glock trigger needs to be run correctly to not seem strange.

Most people will improve their use of the trigger by treating it as a 2stage process.

First, take out all the slack. Press the trigger to the rear until it hits "the wall". Thst is the trigger bar making contact with the connector. Thats the first stage.

Then press the trigger thru the wall until it breaks. Thats the 2nd stage.

If you dry practice that and condition yourself to take out the slack as you extend the gun towards the tgt, you end up sights on tgt and just need to press the trigger another little bit to fire the shot.

The Glock trigger will always have more movement then a 1911 or any other sear based trigger. But, it can be run very well and fast once it is mastered.
 
The trigger is what I can't get used to - which is odd. I didn't expect a 1911 trigger by any means. However with practice I became comfortable with da/sa m9 trigger and the vp9 was easy to pick up. For me, the glock is almost too rigid/stiff. When I dry fire I consistently see a "jerk" to the upper left and generally place shots high left or low left of center.

This pistol is like a bad girlfriend you keep coming back to hoping it's better the next time lol.
 
There are a number of companies making after market triggers for the Glock series of pistols.

I have started running Zev triggers in my Glocks. The downside is the additional cost which can be an issue for some. Adding $200 to the price of the pistol is kinda steep.

Both my G19 and my G26 have very good triggers now (for a Glock). The mechanics of the Glock will always make the trigger have more movement then a seared gun.

Both my M&P's have Apex triggers in them and BOTH are much superior to my Glocks. Just the way the system works.
 
If you just flat out don't shoot it as well as your other guns, I would get rid of it. Take a small loss, you learned you don't really work well with compact glocks. I highly recommend a Walther PPQ or P99, and also try a M&P, and see how you like the feel of the FNS as well.

The Walther has the best trigger and 2nd best grip in my opinion, M&P has 3rd best grip, glock has best aftermarket/parts support but I don't like them that much. I shoot G17/G23/G26/G19/42 pretty well, I just don't like the grips or the triggers or the sights or the looks, or the frame material so I stay away from them.

I have never handled a sig p320, but if it's anything like the P250, I wouldn't like it.

My favorite polymer gum would be a H&K P30/H&K45. SA/DA, reliable, accurate, nice trigger. And it has the best feeling grip I have ever felt on a firearm. Melts in your hand.

I'd say grip feel and trigger feel are most important aspects to a owner/shooter. Both of these build confidence and contribute to accuracy. As does muscle memory
 
I've tried to warm up to Glock for similar reasons. It just hasn't happened. I think the grip shape or angle is part of it but I'm not sure. Glock and I just don't click. As others have said, it's alright because there are so many other great alternatives out there. Speaking of, grantman already owns a VP9. :)
 
Any day you can rid yourself of a Glock is a good one. Life is too short, and the market too filled with high quality competition, to force yourself adapt a pistol that works against you rather than for you.
 
Glocks work for me about the best overall for that category of pistol (all I add is a little Flitz polish, a Vickers mag release, and sights), but if you have pistols that offer comparable features that you shoot better, you have to ask yourself if it's worth the effort to keep trying.
 
My first Glock was a Gen. 3 19. I got it because my Ruger P95 kept flattening extractors, and Ruger refused to address the issue.
I just wanted a good gun that I could depend on to always and always work, no matter what.
That 19 honors my requirement. Then came the 17, and then the 17L, and then the 26. There is nothing left for me to want in hand guns.
Learn to use and depend on the things that never ever let you down...
 
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Lot's of other choices out there. Personally, if I don't LOVE a gun, it's gone.

Try a PPQ. It's everything the G19 wants to be when it grows up. :p
 
grantman: said:
....a gen 4 g19. Intended to use for ccw/range/home. For some reason, I can't get used to the trigger. I've done dry firing drills for a month and put 500 flawless rounds through it without fail. I shoot my 1911s, m9 and hk vp9 markedly better.
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Seems to me you've answered your own guestion here. A Glock 19 is the easiest pistol to sell off since it's the most popular pistol on the market. You can always buy another Glock in the future if you decide you want to give one another chance at another time. And an HK VP9 is certainly a viable alternative to a Glock 19.
 
Frankly, I love my G19, but jmstr nailed this part:
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There is no law that requires glock ownership to be a respected 2nd amendment fan.
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There are a number of complaints about Glocks and some folks just plain ol' don't like 'em. If I were 500 rounds into a pistol and still couldn't get used to some feature, I might think about moving on. The VP9 seems a little large for concealed carry, but the good news is that the "polymer 9mm cc pistol field" is filled with good contenders. Not that I own any of the three I'm going to mention but . . . the XDm 3.8" Compact, the CZ P07 and the Sig P320 are three pistols at which I'd take a close look, in addition to some of the other good suggestions you've gotten here.
 
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