Glock 43 vs Walther PPS M2 9mm ?

There is no best pistol, only what works best for you. My personal choice is the Walther PPS which amazes me every time I shoot it in how accurate and soft shooting in my hands but you should try both to see what your results are. Both are highly regarded in their category.
 
I've tried out a G43 against my own PPS-M2, same ammo & targets & everything, and I shot my PPS-M2 better that time anyway. My PPS-M2 is the smallest pistol I know of that I can comfortably shoot 200 rounds through in a range session.

I am a Glock owner, but I like the PPS-M2 trigger better than the triggers on any of my three Glocks. The CCW that I think is closest in carryablity and shootability to the PPS-M2 is the S&W Shield, but I don't like it enough to want to replace the Walther!

But You should try out all three of these to draw your own conclusions!
 
I have and like both. If I could have only one, I really could make do with either. Bottomline, each has been utterly reliable at the range with a variety of ammo (totaling some 600 rounds through each), and each gives me confidence to hit paper targets out to 25 yards, even at speed.

I find my G43 to be a tad snappier, but I can pocket it in baggyish pants. I find my PPS M2's trigger break to be a tad more defined. Also, I perceive the PPS to be a bigger gun, and not just because it's actually a little bigger than the 43.
 
I'm used to pocket carrying,and I actually like it. To me,and this is just me,it seems as though when your carrying inside the waistband you can't be as discreet when removing your weapon. You have to use your left hand to raise up your t-shirt,and then with your right hand remove the pistol from the holster. "I wear all my shirts untucked". Now when you are pocket carrying you can slide your hand down into your pocket ,which looks like more of a natural movement,because people do put there hands in there pockets when standing in line at a conv. store,etc. You can draw your pistol much faster.

I have seen the clip draw,and I like how that can be worn inside the waist band,and can be remove fairly quick for non pocket carrying. There are hundreds of different ways and situations you can get into when it comes to having to pull out your handgun and defend your life.

AS you can see I'm very big into overthinking things,but to me I always prefer working smarter than working harder. Doing things the easiest way as possible saves time and stress. Those are just a few thoughts for what it's worth.
 
To me,and this is just me,it seems as though when your carrying inside the waistband you can't be as discreet when removing your weapon. You have to use your left hand to raise up your t-shirt,and then with your right hand remove the pistol from the holster. "I wear all my shirts untucked". Now when you are pocket carrying you can slide your hand down into your pocket ,which looks like more of a natural movement,because people do put there hands in there pockets when standing in line at a conv. store,etc. You can draw your pistol much faster.
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I'm not sure I agree with this. If you're talking discreet in that you're saying someone already has a gun out and is watching you or is just eyeing the crowd in general, if I was that guy and I see a guy shoving his hand deep into his pocket I'm watching that hand intently if not acting (assuming I'm the aggressor and don't care about the law). I'm watching that hand anyway as hands are what are typically used to attack/kill us, whether that be a gun or a knife or the hands themselves. You can and should be able to draw a pistol from under a cover garment one handed as there's no guarantee you'll always have both hands accessible, and there are techniques you can practice along that vein. When drawing from a pocket your hand is also inside that pocket for at least a short time. If someone moves on your from the side or whatnot they could close the gap fast enough to trap your hand in that pocket and it's not as easy to get it back out and into the fight. Courses I attend typically have some way of reminding you to keep your hands out of your pockets so they're accessible to you (though to be fair those courses aren't based around pocket carry(. Drawing from the pocket can be fast, but so can from the waistband. To me one of the bigger detriments of pocket carry is a smaller pistol, sometimes less easily shot, and with less capacity.

As always there are pros and cons to everything. To me if pocket carry was something you wanted to consider I'd agree with the others here that stated it's easier to pocket carry the Glock 43.
 
I currently have a Kel Tec PF9,and that is one snappy pistol. It hurts the heck out of the area between my thumb and index finger when shooting. I've shot a glock 43,but only shot 6 rounds through it. That's all the guy at the range would let me shoot it. It was kinda snappy too.
 
Me personally....I don't get out in public a whole lot. I dont like big stores or large crowds. That's just me. The place I go to the most throughout each week is the conv. stores like 7 eleven,ect,ect. I go grocery shopping really early in the morning before the crowds,and other than that I'm working for a living,like most everyone else.
 
I appreciate the compliment, though I do want to point out I am far from any expert, I've just been fortunate enough to train with people that are much more so than I. If you like thinking and working through these scenarios there are a lot of good instructors out there. I've found actually trying things to be the best way to tell what works for you.

And I think I get where you're coming from. I've shot both and not owned both. I find the M2 a bit easier to shoot but the G43 isn't bad. We're really in a golden period with all the great small pistols out there.
 
I'm used to pocket carrying,and I actually like it. To me,and this is just me,it seems as though when your carrying inside the waistband you can't be as discreet when removing your weapon. You have to use your left hand to raise up your t-shirt,and then with your right hand remove the pistol from the holster. "I wear all my shirts untucked"
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I practice drawing my PPS and Glock 19 from IWB all the time at home and never use the other hand to draw and can easily do it with just my right hand. My shirts are not overly long and they are 100 percent cotton as I don't want any fabric that can stretch or snag easily.


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sigarms228, I can appreciate the way you conceal carry,but for me in central florida it's most of the time so hot and humid,and the thought of wearing 2 shirts gives me anxiety. lol
 
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There are a lot of modifications that can be done to a Glock 43, such as a trigger, trigger bar, connector, extended magazine, Mag plate, different sights. I like how it shoots. It's a tad snappier because of size but it's a great gun. I like the more conventional Mag release which is more consistent with all of my other semiautomatic pistols, from 1911s, to Sig Sauer/FN, and most other non-German guns.




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I can't really answer the complete question. With the correct extended magazine the Glock 43 fits my very large hands well and I like the trigger and sights. Though I am more of a revolver guy, I do carry it sometimes and shoot it fairly well. I don't know anything about the Walther, though.
 
The G43 is smaller and thus more suited to pocket carry.
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You must have really big pockets. That gun wouldn't fit in any pockets for me except maybe a winter coat. I don't consider it a pocket gun but then again I know of people that say they pocket carry their G26. I have shot the G43 and it felt good. Nice little gun. I prefer .380 though when guns start to get at that size as I am much more accurate when drawing fast/shooting.
 
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There are a lot of modifications that can be done to a Glock 43, such as a trigger, trigger bar, connector, extended magazine, Mag plate, different sights. I like how it shoots. It's a tad snappier because of size but it's a great gun. I like the more conventional Mag release which is more consistent with all of my other semiautomatic pistols, from 1911s, to Sig Sauer/FN, and most other non-German guns.




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The PPS M2 has the conventional button mag release.


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Despite being told by Wallther that their PPS Classic would not be discounted (paddle mag release) by the PPS M2, I can't find a PPS Classic online...
 
I'm only familiar with the original PPS but I think it feels better in hand than the Glock. That counts a lot for me. It also seems to be a softer shooter with a better trigger. With reliability being pretty much a wash and any difference in overall size being negligible to me, I'd pick the PPS every time.
 
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