Glock 43. Does everyone have to use the joint of their finger to hit dead center?

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hr636

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Just curious. I've noticed even during dry fire it's nearly impossible to press the trigger straight on with the pad of my finger. I had better accuracy with the joint, but I have LONG fingers and I find this position somewhat dangerous as it gets my trigger finger caught on the Web of my support hand.

Should I just use the pad and drift my sights to compensate? Either way I'm key holing at 7 yards, it's just joint is dead center and pad is 2 inches left. I'm pretty sure it has to do with how light the pistol is and how heavy the trigger pull is comparatively. It's just hard to get that straight back trigger pull without moving the pistol unless you have the absolute best leverage on the trigger.
 
Try to apply the basics, and "train like you will fight" to max extent possible, but at the end of the day, do what consistently puts lead on target.
 
I mean. Even at 25 Yards I'm putting lead on a 50 yard standardized nra target which is about the size of a human torso any way I shoot it, so maybe I'm just being anal. It's hard not to when I shoot my 19 so much better.
 
This is one of the reasons I dislike the 43, the trigger breaks too far back, almost at the frame.

I chose the SHIELD because of this, and pricing.
 
Key holing-- Could be ammo but probably out of spec barrel. I did a rare ( for me) thing and traded my G 43 that i disliked for a Sig P 238 (which i love) and a dozen mags even though i already had two other P 238's. Now my G 42 is a real keeper.
 
Using the first joint of the finger to press the trigger is a perfectly acceptable and time-tested practice for combat-style shooting with a heavy trigger pull. FWIW it's the go-to technique for rapid fire with a DA revolver.

Keyholing at only 7yds indicates either radically out-of-spec ammo or a bad barrel. I'd try different ammo and—although it may seem a little odd—different targets. Some types of paper tear in a way that suggests keyholing when it isn't actually taking place. If it continues to keyhole regardless of the ammo or target used, the pistol needs to go back to Glock.

What kind of ammo are you using?
 
I started using the joint on my 42, it was easier to shoot accurately. The trigger reach on these mini Glocks is pretty short.
 
I'm not sure OP is using the word "keyholing" in the same way we usually do. Reading it in context, it seems to me that he might be using the word to indicate a tight group. Hopefully he will stop back in to clarify.

As to the original question: It might just not be a good fit and you might need to move on. I mess with grips less than some on here, but the OP might appreciate some suggestions about a product that thickens the grip front to back, thus moving his palm back and allowing the knuckle trigger placement, which if I understand correctly is his more accurate, to work without interference from his palm. I don't have a specific product in mind, but there are folks on here who know a lot more than me.
 
TailGator said:
I'm not sure OP is using the word "keyholing" in the same way we usually do. Reading it in context, it seems to me that he might be using the word to indicate a tight group.
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Excellent point.

hr636: The term "keyholing" refers to the keyhole-shaped hole in a target that is created when the bullet passes through it sideways, i.e. the bullets are tumbling in flight. This indicates (in order of generally lessening likelihood) very undersize and/or misshapen bullets, muzzle damage, extreme bore wear, or a rifling twist rate that it totally inappropriate for the bullet weight or profile being used.

Keyholing is generally accompanied by spectacular inaccuracy at longer ranges, e.g. complete failure to even hit a fairly large target with most shots.

As implied by my previous post, certain types of paper—most commonly types used for ordinary printing rather than for shooting targets—tear irregularly, which can be mistaken for keyholing in some circumstances.
 
"...not sure OP is..." Sounds like it to me too. Also sounds like hr636 needs bigger grips.
However, if his "joint is dead center", I'd be very inclined to shoot that way and forget about anything else. Rule Number One. It works. Don't fix it.
 
Yeah, sorry. I'm talking about a tight group, not any abnormal ballistic characteristics. Here's a photo for better reference.

I guess I don't pay that well of attention to where my sights are when shooting, but it bothers me that I can't seem to shoot dead center at 7 yards. Some of the shots that went way off of my intended target were likely the result of flinching or recoil anticipation

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