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Glock .40 and .357 question
- Thread starter utvols
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utvols,
This is exactly what's turned me away from getting a Glock 23. I bought Steyr M40 instead -- much better gun. Having it clearly eliminates the very need in Glocks in 9 mm and in .40. And once .357 and .45 versions of Steyr come out -- no need for Glocks in these calibers either.
Shoot one, and you'll understand.
Emin
This is exactly what's turned me away from getting a Glock 23. I bought Steyr M40 instead -- much better gun. Having it clearly eliminates the very need in Glocks in 9 mm and in .40. And once .357 and .45 versions of Steyr come out -- no need for Glocks in these calibers either.
Shoot one, and you'll understand.
Emin
As far as I am aware, all semi auto's have a ceratin amount of unsupported chamber.
The .40 is a hot load at around 30,000 psi which seems to be the cause of the few KB's, especially with reloads. The .357 is around 40,000 psi, but has much stronger shell casing, it is not just a necked down .40, but still has a little bit unsupported.
I've fired 5,000 rounds through a G23 and never had a single problem, I also have a .357 barrel for it and have had no problems with that either.
KB's happen with many types of pistol, it just seems that KB's in .40 Glocks have been documented heavily. Nearly every KB recorded in a Glock is the result of using reloads.
I wouldn't worry about it, the Glock in .40 is an excellent choice. The 23 is a good size pistol, big enough to be easy to handle, but small enough to carry easily. The later ones can be converted to .357 by dropping in a .357 barrel.
If you are concerned get a 23 or 32 and get both barrels. You'll enjoy the gun whatever you do.
The .40 is a hot load at around 30,000 psi which seems to be the cause of the few KB's, especially with reloads. The .357 is around 40,000 psi, but has much stronger shell casing, it is not just a necked down .40, but still has a little bit unsupported.
I've fired 5,000 rounds through a G23 and never had a single problem, I also have a .357 barrel for it and have had no problems with that either.
KB's happen with many types of pistol, it just seems that KB's in .40 Glocks have been documented heavily. Nearly every KB recorded in a Glock is the result of using reloads.
I wouldn't worry about it, the Glock in .40 is an excellent choice. The 23 is a good size pistol, big enough to be easy to handle, but small enough to carry easily. The later ones can be converted to .357 by dropping in a .357 barrel.
If you are concerned get a 23 or 32 and get both barrels. You'll enjoy the gun whatever you do.
I have had two 23's (one firing 8000rds and the other 3000rds)and two 22's (one firing 5000rds and the other 4000rds)and have never, yes thats never had a problem with them. These weapons digested thousands of rounds, from surplus to +p ammo with out a hitch. Also, there were no spring changes or any mods, all remained stock the duration of the rounds. I think that this kb thing is a joke. These weapons will perform above and beyond. As to the comparison between the Steyr and the Glock there is none. I wouldn't wish the Steyr upon my worst enemy. If I had to consider another weapon over my Glocks, I would have to look to H&K. I've fired the Steyr and it did nothing for me. And in addition the owner of this particular weapon decided to sell and get his Glock 23 back.
Be Safe
Mike
Be Safe
Mike
i wouldn't say there's nothing wrong with the unsupported chamber but it's like that for a reason. if the chamber was fully supported it wouldn't feed the .40 round with as much reliablility. the .357sig round can and does have a fully supported chamber because the bottleneck round feeds with more reliability.
if you really want you can buy an after market barrel from companies such as bar-sto, olympic arms and others which have fully supported barrels.
there isn't much of a problem with the unsupported chamber, unless you reload. if you reload be very careful that you only use each case a few times. 95% of the kb's happen from weak brass or other reloading problems.
i wouldn't let the unsupported chamber keep you from getting a glock. if you want the .40 get the .40. if you want the .357sig more then get that. i like hte .357sig more than the .40 because i think it has more stopping power not because it has a supported chamber in glocks (which i like also).
if you really want you can buy an after market barrel from companies such as bar-sto, olympic arms and others which have fully supported barrels.
there isn't much of a problem with the unsupported chamber, unless you reload. if you reload be very careful that you only use each case a few times. 95% of the kb's happen from weak brass or other reloading problems.
i wouldn't let the unsupported chamber keep you from getting a glock. if you want the .40 get the .40. if you want the .357sig more then get that. i like hte .357sig more than the .40 because i think it has more stopping power not because it has a supported chamber in glocks (which i like also).
killer45auto
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I agree get the glock its a much better gun and like others has said you can buy a 31 in .357 and then buy a barrel in .40 iv`e seen themas cheap as 135$ I got the 31 and love it!!!!!!
Killer45
Killer45
Yes, the .357 Glock as a fully supported barrel.
I have one, and I have taken the barrel out and dropped a round in it, and it is fully supported, as opposed to the .40 Glocks that are very unsupported at the feed ramp.
This is one of the main reasons that I love the .357 Glock.
The .357 is a better round than the .40 anyway, but in the Glock there is no choice, the .357 is a FAR better option.
Not only that, but if you buy the Glock .40 hi-caps, you can get an extra round of .357 Sig in there for some reason, and they feed flawlessly. Yep, that's 14+1 rounds of .357 Sig in a compact Glock 32, and it is extremely accurate (1 inch groups at 15 yards no problem). Gotta love that gun.
I have one, and I have taken the barrel out and dropped a round in it, and it is fully supported, as opposed to the .40 Glocks that are very unsupported at the feed ramp.
This is one of the main reasons that I love the .357 Glock.
The .357 is a better round than the .40 anyway, but in the Glock there is no choice, the .357 is a FAR better option.
Not only that, but if you buy the Glock .40 hi-caps, you can get an extra round of .357 Sig in there for some reason, and they feed flawlessly. Yep, that's 14+1 rounds of .357 Sig in a compact Glock 32, and it is extremely accurate (1 inch groups at 15 yards no problem). Gotta love that gun.
I have several Glock .40s and have never had a kB even tho I have put thousands of rounds of "re-loads" thru them. Having said that, I have personally witnessed two Glock kBs. One was a "re-load" of highly suspect quality... a lead bullet and who knows what powder charge or quality control. The second was a factory round (Winchester "police only" Ranger 180 jhp) and was almost certainly due to failure of the recruit to do ANY maintenance on his pistol. The m22 was absolutely filthy, and the pistol may have incompletely chambered the round and then fired while slightly out of battery. As a "re-loader" I have noticed the Glock brass showing "the bulge" more than any other of my .40cal pistols. All my Glocks now have after market barrels, more for saving wear and tear on the brass than other considerations.