Glock 30?

xtreme122

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Glock 30

Looking to get a compact pistol for my next gun. This is not for carry just for home protection and range. My first gun I own is a Kimber Govt. 1911. Was thinking of getting either a compact 1911 or try something else like the Glock 30. I did shoot this at the range and seemed to perform well.

I would like to hear from others on this model. Please give me feedback and thoughts on this one. Thanks for your help.
 
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I like my G30, it's an accurate and reliable pistol for it's size. It's no "pocket pistol", and it's kinda' fat for deep concealment, but it's a good shooter.
 
I love my G30. Accurate, reliable, easy to shoot and if you plan right, very easy to conceal in a T-Shirt and Shorts.

If you get one, you will have made the right choice. IMO
 
I have a G30, and its a nice gun, very accurate and has never malfunctioned.

However, it is a pretty big gun really, especially when you wrap it in leather.

I dont think it is easier to conceal that a full size 1911 like your Kimber.
 
The Glock 30 is accurate, easy to shoot well, easy to carry and conceal (MUCH easier than a full size 1911A1 because of the weight difference), and dead-nuts reliable. I have two, and carry one 18 hours a day, every day.
The trigger is quite different from your SA Kimber 1911, however, so you need to play with one before buying, to see if you can get used to it. It's quite easy, and quite controllable, just different. Best.
 
The weight difference between a G30 and full size 1911 is significant, I think about 16 or 18 oz different if I am not mistaken.

But for me, lower weight makes the gun more comfortable to carry, but not easier to conceal.
 
Simplicity of design and 10+1 rds of 45acp in a light, reliable, accurate package. In a bad situation, this is the handgun I'd want with me.
Ronin
 
blades -

I was just wondering why the G29 would be better (particularly when one of the stated uses is home defence)?

The way I see it the G29 (10 mm) will:

(1) Give more recoil and muzzle flash (both control issues),

(2) My experience with 10s is they certainly have more muzzle blast than the .45--a definite negative for shooting in enclosed spaces (e.g., one's home),

(3) It will give more penetration than just about any .45 ACP round--another negative for home defence.

(4) It is harder (takes more effort/dedication) to master than most other available weapons (this per Walter Rauch in a Glock Annual about the G20--the full-size version). If I want precision anywhere, I want it my home.

(5) If you visit glocktalk's "Ten Ring" (the 10 mm Forum), some people experience reliability issues with the 29. (I'm just relaying what I read on Glocktalk--take issue with them.)

(6) The ammo can be difficult to find in local stores. The selection will probably be very limited (e.g., where I live you can only find UMC) and prohibitively expensive in those same local stores. Admittedly, it's not a problem for me--I buy most of ammo mail order and in bulk, but unless, you know what you're getting into and don't mind messing with mail order/bulk buys, the G29 is not "better."

All that being said, I am a 10 mm, G20 fan. It is just a long way from being "better" for the uses described.

It would have been useful for you to have included some rationale for your statement (unless of course,you were just trying to be funny--then you probably needed a little more than just a smiley)--someone might have actually taken you seriously.
 
Actually, for strictly home defense, I'd probably pick the G21 over the G30. The full size pistol is a bit easier to control, the MV is a bit better with the longer barrel, and you have three more rounds. If you plan on concealing it, obviously the G30 has the edge there.
 
Get a 30, you will love it. It is a tack driver, reliable as heck, and not to hard to conceal with the right attire. Especially with the cold weather coming in it won't be difficult. I love mine, I have meprolight night sights on it and they work great.
 
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juliet charley - I will address you points in order.

(1) Give more recoil and muzzle flash (both control issues) - This depends on the load used.

(2) My experience with 10s is they certainly have more muzzle blast than the .45--a definite negative for shooting in enclosed spaces (e.g., one's home) - Again, this depends on the load used. My experience has been different.


(3) It will give more penetration than just about any .45 ACP round--another negative for home defence. - Penetration is a product of bullet construction. When choosing a load for home defense this must be considered. However, my 10mm Starfire home defense load doesn't have more penetration than .45acp FMJ, which has been touted as the best defensive load by gun rag whor...er...writers such as Chuck Taylor. Just because he writes that crap doesn't make it true.

(4) It is harder (takes more effort/dedication) to master than most other available weapons (this per Walter Rauch in a Glock Annual about the G20--the full-size version). If I want precision anywhere, I want it my home. - Just because Walt Rauch can't handle a G20 doesn't mean it can't be done. Have you ever fired a 20 or 29? I own a 20 and it replaced my beloved SIG Sauer P220 .45acp as my home defense gun. It is also my backpacking gun. The P220 is still my carry gun because it is more comfortable to carry. I think both are capable, but for home defense I like the greater power offered by the 10mm. YMMV.

(5) If you visit glocktalk's "Ten Ring" (the 10 mm Forum), some people experience reliability issues with the 29. (I'm just relaying what I read on Glocktalk--take issue with them.) - Folks on these forums have problems with their .45acp, usually a 1911 of some sort, all the time. Are you suggesting that only 10mm's have this problem? I'll take issue with you on this point because you bring it up without any experience of your own. I haven't had any problems with my 20 or the 29 I borrowed. Some other fellows trouble may have been shooter induced.

(6) The ammo can be difficult to find in local stores. The selection will probably be very limited (e.g., where I live you can only find UMC) and prohibitively expensive in those same local stores. Admittedly, it's not a problem for me--I buy most of ammo mail order and in bulk, but unless, you know what you're getting into and don't mind messing with mail order/bulk buys, the G29 is not "better." - This can be true of any load. My favorite shop doesn't carry Winchester SXT's. Should I only shoot 9mm because of this? The fact is most shops will oder whatever you want, within reason. This is the case with my favorite shop. Either way, this is a weak point. Some things in life require that you make an effort. This just may be one of them.

All that being said, I am a 10 mm, G20 fan. It is just a long way from being "better" for the uses described. - That is your opinion, not a fact.

It would have been useful for you to have included some rationale for your statement (unless of course,you were just trying to be funny--then you probably needed a little more than just a smiley)--someone might have actually taken you seriously. - I have fired a 20, 29 and 30 for a side by side comparison. What I found was that the 20 and 29 both had less felt recoil than the 30. You may feel differently once you get a chance to try for yourself. You're still posting other people's opinions as though they were your own. The ;) was used to convey a sense of kidding for making a choice different than mine. If you don't want to take my reply as serious, you don't have to. If you don't like my opinion, take it to e-mail.
 
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Blade67, you might try using quote tags.

click here --> Instructions for use of vB code

:)


as to the comment...
If you visit glocktalk's "Ten Ring" (the 10 mm Forum), some people experience reliability issues with the 29.
people don't generaly post that their weapons are working fine, they post in forums when their guns give them problems because they are looking for answers. So just because you see several people posting in a forum that they are having a problem doesn't mean the majority of the owners of a particular gun are having the same problem.
 
Zundfolge - I didn't use quote tags because of the number of points I wanted to address and the quotes would have made the reply visually much longer than needed. Thanks for the offer of help anyway.
 
So, what makes the G29 "better?" You made a statement that the G29 better, but I still don't see any rationale for your statement.

The only "opinions" I posted that were not my own were duly noted and attributed. The sources were given as references so the original poster or anybody else could check them out. I mean after all, the original poster was asking for information Is there something wrong with suggesting somebody doing a search on glocktalk? The opinions would be mixed, but largely favourable. (Though actually considering glocktalk, the number of negative comments is probably significant.) Are you afraid of somebody reading an article in the Glock Annual? Overall, it was favourable to the G20 and the 10 mm--I think the point made is valid consideration and deserved to be checked out. Do you always take it so personally when someone might express an point of view that differs from your's?

I don't recall any references to .45 ACP FMJ--did you imagine it? What was said was, "It (the 10 mm) will give more penetration than just about any .45 ACP round." I believe your reply basically agreed with my origninal assertion--at least insofar as your chosen home defence loads penetrates more than .45 ACP FMJ. What was your beef?

I live in rather small town, but I get just about any "premium" .45 ACP load (Hyrdra Shoks, Gold Dot, Golden Sabre) I want. Who was talking about the SXT--are you refering about the LEO version (Ranger-T) if so, you can't expect to find it, can you? I just pointed out that 10 mm is harder to get than .45, and that it may a consideration in handgun selection. I think your comment supported mine--10 mm can be harder to find (and may even require special a order). Ammo availability and cost are considerations when selecting a handgun.

I did state, It is just a long way from being "better" for the uses described." I did not imply it was anything more than opinion--at least I didn't see an imprimateur. Did my providing rationale somehow make my opinion a fact in your mind? I did provide some specific rationale for my opinion which you did not do and have yet to do (and which might avoided this whole back and forth).

I admit that have not shot any "mid-range" loads. If I want to shoot the .40 S&W, I shoot the .40 S&W. I'm sure I could find loads that recoil less (though I believe "felt" recoil is mostly subjective anyway), have less muzzle flash (not a real problem with premium loads) and less muzzle blast (a real problem for indoors use), but then I wouldn't be shooting a 10 mm, would I? (Again, probably the biggest concern would be muzzle blast--the 10 mm is loud, and I don't see the G29 being quieter to shoot than the G20--at least with "full-bore 10 mm loads.) Maybe you should have just recommended a G23 (or at least qualified your opinion--there we ago talking about rationale again--to tell us you were talking with mid-range or reduced loads).

I am a 10 mm fan (at least in the G20 version). I am also a G30 fan. I have shot them both extensively (not just a "side-by-side comparison"). For the use described (home defence), I do not think the 10 mm is the "better" choice (though overall it can be a good choice for self-defence).

And maybe we should stop this. I like the 10 mm. You like the 10 mm (I guess). I probably stepped on your toes over a "pet" gun, and I'm sorry. I was talking about the calibre, and you were talking about the "platform." I have one "mission" ("field" gun) for the 10 mm, and you have another. At home, my G30 is loaded and ready go--my G20 is locked away.
 
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Johnwill,

Unless xtreme is an Leo or gets preban mags, both the G21 and G30 hold 10 rounds due to Klinton .

If it is pre-ban mags, then those can also be used in the G30 to get 13 rnds.

I have a G30 and love it, but I CCW. If CCW wasn't an issue, I might get the G21...I'm not sure
 
I see it like this...I will get the G30 because I really like it and will use preban mags with the A&G extension for that larger grip feel also. Thanks.
 
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