Glock 30 or Ruger P97?

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I'm looking to purchase one or the other, would like comments & opinions on both.

How do the two compare as far as reliability, accuracy, recoil, shot to shot recovery time ect...

Is the Ruger's bbl. 3.9in or 4.2in? Also, what loads does everyone recommend that would have the best chance of expanding from these short bbl. 45's?

Any help is appreciated!

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Though the Ruger is a nice gun and many people love them, I'd have to go with the G30. All three of the G30s I've fired have been excellent shooters!
 
Own both of them! I find that they are really hard to compare but, if compare you must, then I would recommend the Glock 30. Although somewhat thick I have found it to be an excellent gun to shoot. Recoil comparatively mild, outstanding accuracy, and very reliable. But......the Ruger is nice too.
 
Ruger P97: good bargain, clumsy ergonomics, long DA pull, reliable

Glock 30: compact, utterly reliable, highly accurate, easy to shoot well

Advantage: Glock 30

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Ditto to what Sawbones said, I carry a 30 daily and also own a Ruger M93. Although the Ruger is a 9mm variant, the ergonomics are the same as the 97 and I would choose the M30 hands down. Some 200 gr JHP +P rounds in the 30 will stop anything short of a charging Rhino and this stock pistol is simply one of the most extreamly acurate I've ever fired.
The first time I ever laid hands on a M30 I shot consistantly, single hole 10 round 2" groups at 30 ft. and since then I've only gotten better :)
However, for the $$ the 97 is a great pistol, the 30 just much better so you pay the extra $$

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[This message has been edited by Mordwyn.45 (edited August 24, 2000).]
 
I would go with the P97. Tough as nails, just as reliable, accuracy as good as a Glock. And with the left over money you can get a nice holster and lots of ammo.
 
I have difficulty comparing the crappy trigger of the Ruger to the somewhat better trigger of the G30. I also find it difficult to cram hi-cap mags in a Ruger. Besides, we can thank Bill Ruger for backstabbing us gunowners regarding the Low-Cap Magazine laws.

On the other hand, the Ruger, when inserted in a long sock and swung about one's head, makes a hell of a club!
 
Go with the Glock 30. I don't know how the P97's trigger is, but if it's anything like the P90-blechhhhh. Worst trigger I've ever used on an auto.
 
I have owned the P97 and traded it in on the G30 so I guess I can give you the facts.

I miss my P97. It shot anything you put in it, would out live the Glock, was simple to field strip and clean, very accurate for a service pistol, and cost $200 less.
Recoil on the P97 and G30 are both excellent. Very mild in both. The trigger pull on the P97 was smooth all the way to the break. Very long take up though.

The downside is you can't really upgrade it like you can the Glock's due to lack of popularity. It's about an ounce heavier then the Glock 30 but with full magazines the Glock catches up having an extra 2 rds of ammo. The P97 is also bigger although I had no problem carrying IWB with it. The actuall barrel length is a hair over 4". The expansion difference is negligable since the tighter polyagonal barrel on the Glock helps to increase velocity slightly.

What I like about my G30 is it's very accurate for it's size, it's easy to get upgraded parts for different spring tensions, trigger pulls, barrels, you name it. Holsters are abundant for the Glocks as well. It's easier to conceal and holds 11 rds of 45ACP with one in the pipe.

For customer service I would have to give it to Ruger. They both are good but Ruger won me over when they had to repair a flaw in my trigger set-up. They paid shipping both way's, replaced my entire action, gave me an extra magazine for free, and had my gun back to me 5 days after I mailed it.

Glock goes out of their way as well but they will never pay for your shipping. A minor thing maybe but when it's a manufacturers fault that a gun doesn't work you should not have to pay one red cent to get it fixed. Especially when you paid over $500 for it.

If I had to pick one I guess I would still prefer the Glock but man I miss my P97.



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Wow... we're making prgress here! It took an entire 8 WHOLE posts for someone to mention the Ruger contribution to the 10 round limit :rolleyes: ;) (even though he proposed 15).

Anyways, get the Ruger for home, & the Glock for carry... it's that simple IMO. Personally, I don't have a HUGE attraction to either of those two when the G23 and 26/27 are out there and are much better choices for carry. Personally, I really like my P-95. Extremely low maintanance, simple to shoot, to clean, etc. It's ompletely reliable to boot. Plus I have a factory 15 round mag (cheap) and two factory ten rounders.

take care,
Ben

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[This message has been edited by Ben (edited August 25, 2000).]
 
I'm gonna get it with this post but what the heck. Ever notice how Glocks are great guns but at any site dedicated to Glocks only the boards are full of people complaining about broken extracters, those stock plastic sights falling off or the slide stop malfinctioning not to mention the kabooms with some models?

I just don't get it. If any other make does this it's a loser but with Glocks it's not. I am probably going to get a Glock soon because I think the compacts are great but I still am curious about this.
 
I've never had any of those problems and you can hear the same thing about 1911s, but that's what you get with the sheer numbers made for both.

As to the G30, I rented one and was really impressed by the mild recoil and accuracy. Reliability was good too, since the gun was filthy and needed a good cleaning.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Will Beararms:
I'm gonna get it with this post but what the heck. Ever notice how Glocks are great guns but at any site dedicated to Glocks only the boards are full of people complaining about broken extracters, those stock plastic sights falling off or the slide stop malfinctioning not to mention the kabooms with some models?[/quote]

Never heard anything of that nature. Extractors do not break. Plastic sights tend to break, but afterall, they're plastic not metal. Anyone in their right mind replaces the stock sights anyway.

The Kaboom issue is due to shooter ignorance. You don't shoot lead reloads through a polygonal rifled barrel. It leads the bore which results in raised pressures.

Back to the original question, go with the G30. I toyed with the Ruger P97 for awhile. Its less accurate than the G30. And the slide is prone to rust. Then theres that magazine release problem that really hasn't been corrected.
 
You hear about Glock problems alot because of popularity. If any of the other guns sold as many pistols as Glock does you'ld hear about them as well.
Because of their popularity there is a whole slew of aftermarket upgrades. As a result, many people experiment with different upgrades. Sometimes this creates problems so the owner post a thread seeking help.

The KB thing was a combination of things. One was lead bullets, another was hot reloads, another was thin brass in the (at the time) new 40S&W ammo. The unsupported barrel is the same as other unsupported barrels so that's not a factor that needs correcting. You can always buy a barrel with more support but with that comes a lower feed reliability.
When I had my P97 I use to hang out at the Ruger Forum quite a bit and I found plenty of people complaining about the P series pistols. Heck, mine even went back to Ruger for a trigger job but I still loved the gun.

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"It is easier to get out of jail then it is a morgue"
Live long and defend yourself!
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GOA
GSSF
KABA
 
Glock 30. It's the best Glock has to offer. Good for CCW, competition, plinking, and steel plates.

The most versatile of all of the Glocks and widely reported to be the most accurate.

You can buy them used here and there for around $425.

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On broken extractors in Glocks...

Yes they will chip/break. The main cause for this is shooting semiwadcutter loads in the gun. This is something I tried in both G30 and G21 models. If you read the directions from Glock, however, they recommend only fmj bullets.

Yes, after firing 300 rounds of nothing but semiwadcutters the extractors did need replacement.

Glocks are still a great combat handgun.

And, like anything else...RTFM!!!!!
 
Get the G30. I'm a diehard 1911 nut. However, the only Glock I didn't sell was the G30. It's too good a gun to get rid of.
 
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