Glock 23, the 13th round problem!

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adrian44

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Ok, so I have a new 23 gen 4, and other than an ejected case striking me in the face once or twice per magazine it functions very well and shoots reliably and accurately. The issue that bothers me is that I can put 12 rounds in the magazine alright, but the 13th needs a lot of struggle as there is barely enough space for it. With one in the barrel inserting the magazine loaded with 13 rounds feels as if I am crushing the brass, and racking the slide requires a lot of strength and I can feel the 13th round digging in the metal of the slide.

This is the case with the 3 magazines that came with it. My question is, should I carry it with only 12+1? I would like to go 13+1, but I fear a failure to cycle or excessive wear in the slide because of all the pressure from the 13th round. What do you think?

Thanks.
 
I'd just load one round less and not worry at all about it, but if you're truly concerned about having as many rounds as possible, get some mag extensions
 
Try leaving the mags loaded for a week or so. Sometimes they will break in a little. Also look into a Lula uploader. The Lula keeps pressure off the feed lips while loading, and makes it much easier on your fingers.
 
If it's unusually difficult to lock the magazine into the gun with the last round stuffed into the mag, and if you can tell a significant difference in how much effort it takes to rack the gun with the last round in the mag then I'd leave it out.

The first set of mags I got with my Glock 20 were like that and I finally decided it was better to leave them underloaded by one than to risk deforming the magazine catch or magazine catch notch, smashing cartridges and possibly inducing a malfunction.

As an interesting aside, Beretta actually recommended not loading to +1 capacity in the 9x series manuals, stating that it "is an advantage because the magazine spring is not fully compressed but under about the same tension as a <fully> loaded spare magazine".
 
Did you know that Glock uses the same mag spring on just about all its magazines. The 22, 23, 27, 17, 19 and 26 all use the same mag spring! My question would be "has the mag ever been disassembled?" You would be surprised how many times I have seen a mag spring incorrectly installed.:eek:

Racking the slide should not be affected by a full mag or not. The push rail is already behind the mag and top round to start with when the mag is inserted if the chamber is open as it should be. Our agency instructs to always insert a full mag into an open chamber gun to achieve proper feeding.
 
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Did you know that Glock uses the same mag spring on just about all its magazines. The 22, 23, 27, 17, 19 and 26 all use the same mag spring!
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Sorry, not sure where you heard this, but that is incorrect. The compact and subcompacts use the same 9 coil spring (i.e. - G26, G27, G19, G23, G33, G32) and the full size guns use the same 10 coil spring, (i.e. - G17, G22, G20, G21, G31).

And more recently, the 357sig and 40 full size guns come with a stronger, 11 coil spring.

The 10rd versions of the mags use different springs as well.
 
Install the upgraded ejector and that will solve your BTF problem. I'm willing to bet that ypu currently have the 1882 ejector. I believe the newer ejector is 28926. The swap solved my BTF and dented up casings issue. For the magazines, load them to full capacity with the mag loader and let them sit for a week and the springs will be easy to load all 13 rounds.
 
Such a worry is not worth worrying about, Just leave one round out and whistle while you shoot. You will never need that 13th round in any defensive situation so why worry about it. In a previous lifetime I loaded 19 rounds in a M-14 Magazine, and then later 19 rounds in in a M-16 magazine, never once did I stay awake nights worrying " will I need the last round ? ". There are better things to worry about.:):)
 
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