Glock 19 Reliability work

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BobRowe

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I have a number of pistols I use in IDPA. After buying and using a used G17, I bought a G19 as one of my carry guns. I will also be using the G19 in SSP Division in IDPA, as well as Service class in PPC matches.

I'd like to send the G19 to to a gunsmith to have a basic reliability job done on it, including some *mild* lightening and smoothing of the trigger pull. I realize that I could probably do some, if not all, of this myself, but I just don't have the time. So I'm not looking for instructions on how to do any of this.

What I'm looking for are some leads as to known, competent gunsmiths who do good "carry reliability" work on Glocks. Any suggestions? Thanks.
 
I detect the presence of a desire to spend money fixing something that isn't broken.

If a new gun needs reliability work out of the box, send it back to the factory. Demand reimbursement of the shipping fees while you're at it. A Glock 19 shouldn't need any sort of reliability tuning.

Now regarding practical modifications, THAT is another matter. Replace the plastic sights and guide rod with metal ones. I'd advise against lightening the trigger unless it's for competition only. On a duty gun a light trigger might not always reset correctly.
 
Bob:

1. As has been noted, your Glock should be (and almost certainly is ) the most reliable handgun in existence. I own eight Glocks and my sons own three. NONE has ever failed to fire, failed to feed or failed to extract. Period. If yours isn't totally reliable, send it back to Smyrna.

2. A lighter trigger is available, however, and I have it on three of my "carry" Glocks. Not for reliability, but because I prefer, and shoot better with, the 3.5 lb. trigger. Mine came from "Glockmeister" (glockmeister,com). It's a 'drop in" trigger that you can do yourself if you follow the instructions and color photos on the glockmeister site - or you can send it to them and they'll install it for free (you pay the shipping). Costs about $65.00


stay safe,
Dawg23
 
BobRowe, I'm from your area. Where are there IDPA mathches held locally? I shot IPSC but lost interest a couple years ago.
 
You might want to have a good gunsmith inspect the gun to insure everything is within factory specs, but reliability wll go down when you start changing or modifing the gun. Glocks are easy to work on, go buy and extra recoil spring and slide stop and that should be all you will need for thousand of rounds.
 
Actions By T

Speak with Mr. Teddy Jacobson at Actions By T.
www.actionsbyt.com Prices at: http://www.actionsbyt.com/brochure.html
You'll get it back in under three weeks if you send Cash In Advance.

He is an ex policeman and does a lot of Glocks for LEA's. I think a Glock is also his preferred carry piece. He can tell you what to expect.

He did some work on my CZ 85 Combat, got it back and shot two five shot 2" groups at 25 yards. The trigger is perfect. And he doesn't even like CZ's!
 
Dawg23 said:

A lighter trigger is available, however, and I have it on three of my "carry" Glocks. Not for reliability, but because I prefer, and shoot better with, the 3.5 lb. trigger. Mine came from "Glockmeister" (glockmeister,com). It's a 'drop in" trigger that you can do yourself if you follow the instructions and color photos on the glockmeister site - or you can send it to them and they'll install it for free (you pay the shipping). Costs about $65.00
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Does that 3.5 lb trigger change the reset distance or the overtravel distance at all? Thanks.
 
VVG said:

Speak with Mr. Teddy Jacobson at Actions By T.
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Thanks for the reminder. I had Teddy do a carry package job on a H&K USP Compact for me, and I wasn't aware he worked on Clocks. I'll check it out.

I apparently wasn't clear in my original post. I'm *not* looking for work because my G19 is not reliable. It has been totally reliable so far. But I'm looking for work that will enhance reliability under adverse conditions (dust, etc.), such as polishing the breech face, etc. I'm also looking to improve the trigger on a carry piece, but I'm not looking for a super light competition trigger.
 
IRock said:

I'm from your area. Where are there IDPA mathches held locally? I shot IPSC but lost interest a couple years ago.
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I've shot IDPA matches at two clubs in southern Michigan.

Linwood Bay Sportsman's Club in Linwood just off of I-75 has outdoor matches about every month from April/May to October. The lasts one is usually a night shoot. They also usually have two indoor matches in the winter. One is this weekend. The other is in march.

I have also shot matches at Linden Portsman's Club in Linden off of US-23. They have matches each month during the good weather. Last year, they also had practice scenarios during the evening hours a couple of days during the week. But those may have been practice for the State Championships, which they hosted last year.

There are a number of other clubs in Michigan that are affiliated with IDPA and host IDPA matches. Cadillac and Bend Of The River are a couple of them, but I've never been to them because they're quite a drive for me.

I'd suggest that you check out the IDPA web site. They have a list of all the clubs in each state, and how to contact them.
 
Bob:

The 3.5 lb. trigger doesn't affect the reset or trvel distance at all. There are also other (cheaper) ways to lighten the pull - such as changing only the connector. But I've found the drop in trigger to be excellent, as has my friend in Kingwood.

I did make one error in my earlier post. I didn't put this trigger in three of my Glocks - I put it in four of them (I forgot about my G-17).

Your mention of reset tells me you're well along in mastering the Glock.

You may want to call Ben Paz (he's the Glockmeister) at his toll free number 888-456-2563. Don't be put off by his accent or what may seem to be brusque answers. Ben is a former Israeli Special forces officer, a former Israeli Secret service agent and a former (5 years) Glock factory technician. He is incredibly knowledgeable and is a VERY nice guy (his accent makes some folks think he is grumpy).

Hope this helps,
Dawg23
 
Bob,

Could you tell me the work that was done on your USP. If the work affected the guns appearance could you post a picture of the gun?

Thanks
 
Glock 19 Reliability work
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"Bob's Guide to G19 Reliability"

1.) Charge the magazine with FMJ or JHP ammunition (stay away from the lead, unles you swap out the factory barrel).
2.) Insert the magzine into the magazine well. Insure that it is properly seated.
3.) Rack the slide (or depress the slide release if the slide is in the locked-back position) to chamber a round.
4.) Take aim at a target you intend to hit.
5.) Squeeze the trigger.
6.) Repeat step 4.) until the magazine is empty, then remove the empty magazine.
7.) If you have another loaded magazine, proceed to step 2.) and repeat. If you do NOT have another loaded magazine, return to step 1.) and repeat.

Reliability of 99.99% or better should be achieved.

:cool: :D :cool:
 
My G19 had a slight problem with failure to go into battery with PMC ammo. But I fed it the remainder of a box today and it seems to be cured. :cool:

Just keep it spiffy clean and lubed, use only jacketed ammo, and NEVER, EVER FEED IT WOLF! :barf:

- pdmoderator
 
defox said:

Could you tell me the work that was done on your USP. If the work affected the guns appearance could you post a picture of the gun?
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The work did not affect the appearance of my H&K USP Compact .40 S&W. He contoured the chamber opening, polished the chamber and feed ramp, polished the breech face, deburred and polished all trigger/action parts, and installed a stronger trigger spring (to speed up trigger reset). The work lowered the DA trigger pull from 12.5 lbs pull to 9 lbs pull, and it lowered the SA trigger pull from 5 lbs to 4 lbs.
 
Bob Rowe:

My conscience is bothering me - when I offered to put you in touch with my friend who lives in Kingwood, I told you he was a nice guy and a 'good ole boy."

BUT I failed to provide full disclosure, and now feel compelled to do so. My friend is an ENGINEER (We try not to hold that against him, and hope that you won't either). He also works for one of the major oil companies, but that's shouldn't be a big problem since half of Houston does too.

There - now I feel all better. You know, "confession is good for the soul" and all that stuff.


Dawg23
 
I'll jump in with another recommendation for Glockmeister. He's Top Shelf. He does all my Glock Armorer's work. I use his 3.5lb Competition Trigger Packages in both of my carry Glocks. It had a very positive effect on my accuracy.

Good Luck, 44 Dan
 
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