Give Brit Socialists hell

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simonov jr

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Just want to tell you what meddling bastards you are. You have bought a great American firearms manufacturer, S&W, and reduced it to an extension of your failed Socialistic country. You subjects would never understand the rights of citizens (that is, after all, why we ejected you 200-plus years ago). It is our mistake in thinking that after bailing you out of 2 World Wars, you MIGHT hesitate to stab us in the back. Fat chance, I guess. Let me tell you that I would sooner eat bark than buy a single British-made product. We threw you out once before and we can do it again. Take your no-empire, fish and chip eating, BTU-using, tower of ben high tax-levying BUMS and find another country to wreck. We are already boycotting S&W, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. My grandfathers both fought to save your pathetic country from Facism, how sad they would be today to see you embrace the very Hitlerian crap they risked their lives to save you from. God save the Queen, she'll need all the help she can get! A concerned Yank
 
Socialists!There is no such thing as a UK citizen, only UK subjects. Half of you are on "The dole" or recieve government assistance of some kind. Pathetic. I hope Germany gets nasty again and gives you a mighty slap in the face.
 
I had a great, great, great, great, great grandfather who fought to kick England's ass about 225 years ago.

I had a great grandfather who fought to save England's ass about 80 years ago.

My grandfather fought to save England's ass (again) about 55 years ago.

Now England would have me kiss their ass...

NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!

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RKBA!
"The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security"
Ohio Constitution, Article I, Section 4 Concealed Carry is illegal in Ohio.
Ohioans for Concealed Carry Website
 
What a bunch or racist bigots you all are.
Saved the English from ww2 ?
Well just maybe the war would have ended earlier if you hadn't sat out of the war for years until you were attacked, same with ww1. and you are calling them cowards ?????

I really get sick of this crap out you beating them in your war of independence - you wouldn't have won without the help of the French and the fact that winning the war wasn't going to be worth the effort when England had other problems in Europe to worry about.

Your so called great war of war indpendence was inspired by rich businessmen who didn't want to pay an unfair tax and who were in debt to English busineesesmen.

What do you call the thousands and thousands of Americans who fought and died on the side of the loyalists ? where they ignorant coward socialists ?
It's time some of you started looking at history without your rose coloured glasses on, because these attitudes are really pathtic.
They rem,ind me of the stuff you here from Iranians about the USA.

I dare any of you to repeat what you said in front of a British veteran.

It took brave British, American and allied soldiers to win the war, America can't just claim the credit for winning.
 
Bluesman -
do you really believe that about ww1 ?

Yes Americas joining the war helped the Germans realise they couldn't win but saying you won ww1, well it's the biggest load of crap I've ever seen posted on this board.

Also the first American action in WW1 was commanded by Australians, the Americans got annoyed and pulled a lot of their troops out but some still fought.
The name of the battle escapes me but I can find it.
 
Hello rabbit,

Firstly, I will ignore the comment about being a racist bigot. That personal attack isn't worth my time to respond to, more than I already have.

Secondly, I agree with your statement that, "It took brave British, American and allied soldiers to win the war, America can't just claim the credit for winning." It also follows that by helping to save England, we saved ourselves and many others from agression.

Your most salient point is that it took cooperation from ALL the allies to defeat the axis nations. Likewise, it will take cooperation from all gun owners, worldwide, to defeat racist and bigoted gun control laws.

If you would like to argue about historical perspectives of WWI and WWII, let's take it to email. The topic of this thread is giving hell to the socialistic owners of Smith & Wesson.

-Dave

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RKBA!
"The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security"
Ohio Constitution, Article I, Section 4 Concealed Carry is illegal in Ohio.
Ohioans for Concealed Carry Website
 
Well your post was addressed to the British in general - and you did say you saved them in WW2.
Your post was inflammatory, imagine if I had replaced America in your post instead of England ?
Would you have been happy ?
I expect to be banned for expressing non pro American feelings, but it's time people concentrated less on attacking the British and more on their own socialists.
We all hasve our own.

Far from being socialists - the owners have been shown to be smart capitalists by doing this to enhance their earnings, they are taking this line to earn more money, that's far from being socialists.
 
Hard facts for us to see

1 The SOVIETS beat Hitler (with material help from the US & UK)

2 The US Beat Japan

3 The UK Survived the battle of brittan due to a brave people, US material & GROSS GERMAN Incomptence.

4 Had the US NOT stayed in Europe WITH NUKES a third World war would probably have been started by Papa Joe.

Oh and yes the Brit home guard recived many PRIVATE wepons form the NRA
 
rabbit,

Banned for expressing non pro-American feelings? Ha! If that was the case, half our membership would probably be gone. ;) You know the old phrase "I love my country, but fear my government." I think it applies to most everyone on this board.

Call them capitalists, call them socialists, it doesn't really matter does it? The owners of Smith & Wesson have capitulated to the government. They deserve all contempt IMNSHO.

I think that this thread would be better off focusing on the owners of S&W and their traitorous agreement; and less on their nationality or political conviction. Make comments to comments@tomkins.co.uk

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RKBA!
"The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security"
Ohio Constitution, Article I, Section 4 Concealed Carry is illegal in Ohio.
Ohioans for Concealed Carry Website
 
Rabbit assassin;

I'm not going to respond to your insults.

I've noted your country of residence.

Now I'm going to go out and shoot my Ruger 10/22'2, my AR-15, my SKS, my Ruger MkII, my Springfield 'Loaded', my P-90, and my Remington 11-87.

All semi-autos, and all unavailable to you.
 
Ahhh ... guys.

I think our "feelings" for Tomkins are getting in the way here. In reading this thread, I think rabbit assassin may have had some cause to get riled.

Rabbit, we are very proud of our history, at least that part until very recently. I know the difference between British and English. My own ancestors are Scot, from a small area straight across from the Isle of Skye. As English speakers, we have more in common than in difference. Did you see the Independence Ceremonies in the newly established Scottish Parliament last summer? Now there was an embarassment! It reminded me of May Day in Peiking, with all the little children parading by with banners from each of the provinces made to look alike! I tuned in on C-SPAN and was dismayed.

Nowadays, we are somewhat embarassed by the liberal takeover underway in our society. We elected the sludge twice, but it's more than the government. We see Britain, Australia and Canada as lost in the RKBA fight. Now that may be wrong of us, but in the S&W debacle we see the some of the results of a "world economy". And if that is how it will go, we want no part of it. Of course, that may not be possible, I'll admit.

These three countries have the most in common with our own history, so the loss is very troubling. VERY TROUBLING. Remember, for two hundred years, we have not considered ourselves "subjects" and we have always had a written constitution. So, we are stricken in our RKBA struggle by the most grievous loss of rights by your fellow citizens, and those of Australia and Canada.

This is a human rights issue to us. Our constitution did not convey the RKBA, it guarantees Government non-interference in a God-given human right. Why would our Founding Fathers do that? I mean if it's a God-given right, then ...? The fact that we haven't gone the way of Britain, Canada and Australia, is because of our independent attitude, irreverence for authority and our hard-won successes as a nation.

So, before you think I've forgotten where I started, we have reason to believe that the British (yes, not just the English) people probably think what is happening is just fine. It's not ONLY that Tomkins is a British firm, but also the communism that masquarades as liberal socialism in your country.

In the long run, nothing good will come of it. After all, in our minds, the difference between socialism and communism is only a matter of degree, i.e., how much of your income shall be redistributed to those in "need"? And BTW, in order to accomplish that, how many of your personal liberties must be limited for the good of the "whole". A colony of ants, I say.

The right to keep and bear arms is "fly sh!t in the pepper" of the global approach to community planning and must be overcome. The UN, your government and ours are engaged in one of the most (no, THE most, because it is global) heinous PR campaigns in human history.

We have difficulty in constraining our arguments to the subject because of all this. Please forgive the grade school lecture, but it is all tied together in our minds.

In summary, the willingness of Tomkins to play dead bug is because<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>They are a British company and British willingness to comply with the wishes of authority is well documented.<LI>They played the perfect "international" company role in negotiating with our government. To wit: whatever it takes to remain in business. Question: How long can you breathe wearing a noose?</UL>Boy, are they in for a surprise!

Forgive the heat. It's part of who we are.

Our form of government may yet prove to be as nonresponsive as yours and Australia's. All that needs to happen is for us to do nothing. As soon as a large enough portion of the voting public is on some sort of dole, it's over. RKBA is just a casualty along the way, but a great loss I must say. We have the advantage of watching it happen to you, Canada and Australia, depressing thought it was to see.

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sensop....BRAVO!!!!! Well said.
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Let's talk history for a moment. True many of our ideas were borrowed from British civil liberterians of the day, as well as French. In many ways, the American revolution was cradled by the Parliament against the power of the Crown. More recently, one thing is clear- there would probably not have been a second ww if Germany had won the first, and they clearly would have, had it not been for the massive intervention of american supplies throughout the war and the massive influx of american troops in 1918. When the last german offensive occured after millions of troops were released from the russian front, the germans had a large tactical and small strategic advantage that could have been exploited had it not been for the US intervention. The UK had been bled dry, and the french will to continue had all but been broken. It was the promise of unlimited american manpower and supplies that settled the issue, the bravery of the British and French troops, not withstanding. The lossing of the peace by the greedy and vengeful european politicos and isolationism by this country, laid the groundwork for the next war. Many arguements can be made as to how Hitler could have been stopped prior to his invasion of Poland, but the bottom line was the fighting spirit of the British people kept the flame of freedom alive, while the US marshalled their forces. That the US would have entered the conflict is without a doubt, as Roosevelt and Churchill had confered on the best way to make this happen on several occaisions. American ships wer exchanging shots with german U-boats and reporting there positions to the Admiralty. It was an obvious attempt for a pretext to intervention. The fact that Hitler declared war on the United States astonished Churchill and Roosevelt, and was received with toasting in both capitals (Churchill went on to say it was the first good nights sleep he got since the war began after receiving the news). As more information is declassified in the US (UK has a bad history with regards to releasing this kind of info-Offical Secrecy Act, now there is a democratic act), the full extent of this cooperation is becoming clear. Have a nice day. And screw Tompkins and S&W and long live the great liberterians from all nations, past and present.

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I agree completely with giving Tomkins PLC all the hell we can.

One way to do that is to expand the economic boycott from Smith & Wesson to all other Tomkins-owned companies and brand names. These include automotive products companies in the United States such as Trico and Tridon windshield wiper blades and Stant radiator caps. Any TFL members who do maintenance on their cars could buy Bosch wiper blades or refills, for example.

I posted a list of Tomkins companies just after the S&W cave made news.

We know that econonic boycotts work, right, Citibank? Kmart?

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Slowpoke Rodrigo...he pack a gon...

Vote for the Neal Knox 13

[This message has been edited by Slowpoke_Rodrigo (edited March 31, 2000).]
 
Slowpoke_ ,

Post that list again, if you don't mind, or give the link to the post. Email .. whichever is easier. Thanks.
 
The Rabbit Assassin is correct, please refrain from attacks against the people of the United Kingdom, past and present. England has a great history, maybe the greatest when it comes to battle.

Nelson defeated the Spanish Armada. Wellington defeated Napolean. The Brits would have kicked our butts had we not received help from the French in our war of independence. The Brits were instrumental in the defeat of Germany in both WWI and WWII. We must not forget that England was the dominant world power for several hundred years. Further, there is still an anglo-saxon capitalistic spirit that survives in the U.K. The U.K. is probably the least socialistic country in an increasingly socialist Europe (save Switzerland). Let's stop generalizing, not all citizens of the U.K. are lefties.
 
Being least socialist is like being a little bit pregnant.

Let us not forget the demonstration of thanks from the Brits for the thousands of donated firearms from American Citizens;....when they felt safe, the Brits dumped the arms in the ocean or used them as structural steel in new concrete pourings.

Sam I am, grn egs n packin
 
This thread has gone off-topic and is now dangerously close to being locked. I am a little more than partially to blame for this myself. Some have tried to keep this on topic and they have my thanks. All have made valid comments, but not all belong in this forum.

If we can keep to the subject of sending our comments to the parent company of S&W then this thread will continue. Bash Tomkins/S&W for their cowardly acts, their gutless surrender to Clinton, etc.; but this has nothing to do with any other British, English, U.K., etc. actions past present or future. Here is the email address: comments@tomkins.co.uk


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RKBA!
"The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security"
Ohio Constitution, Article I, Section 4 Concealed Carry is illegal in Ohio.
Ohioans for Concealed Carry Website
 
The National path of a country is somewhat dictated by the will of the people.
In England, civilians aren't allowed firearms and the police have computer-linked cameras in all public places, all across the country. All very civilized, reasonable, and proper.
 
And may all your very civil and proper spies in the skies (cameras in public places, Menwith Hill, et.al.) stop your increase in violent crimes. I prefer a firearm to prevent violence upon my person and that of my loved ones. When the electricity is interrupted, my gun will still work. :D
 
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